On the water at meadow creek lake by 10 off at 4.no one fell overboard and no leaks.pretty good multi species day crappie yellow perch bass trout 1 big gill.the wife wants a cushion... ...75 degrees,lite breeze.going to try the minnkota on the bow next time.dont know if it will be better,not used to a tiller.Dale Hollow next wed.walleyes...