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#1186224 - 02/22/10 01:25 PM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: Conrad G.]
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Originally Posted By: old fart
Okay. My plan is to not purchase any licenses this year. Hunting or fishing. Nadda_ Not playing by these rules. That being said I have no intention of not getting out there. If I have to rent a charter and pay 10 times what the license costs I would rather give my cash to a someone in business than give a dime to the state. Nothing against EnCon enforcement. You guys are not the problem.

So_ a couple of questions:

I know for the marine district if I am on a party boat or a charter I do not need a license but one thing is not clear. Some charter captains or "guides" might be a better word will allow you to either come aboard on their boat OR will go with you and use your vessel. Is it the charter captain that exempts me from the license requirement or is it the fact that I am on his boat??

No, technically a Charter/Party Boat registration is assigned to the vessel. You can take a look at the application here: Charter Boat Registration

Same question for fresh water. Can I get a charter for the CT river and not have to purchase a license myself or is it different for fresh water. Also same issue with the his boat or mine thing.

There is no exemption for fresh water charters, the language of the statutes are specific to the Marine License.....

Sec. 26-27. Licenses required for hunting, trapping and fishing. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), (c), (e) or (f) of this section and other provisions of this chapter providing specific license exemption, no person shall take, hunt or trap, or shall attempt to take, hunt or trap, or assist in taking, hunting or trapping, any wild bird or mammal and no person more than sixteen years of age shall take, attempt to take, or assist in taking any fish or bait species in the inland waters by any method, without first having obtained a license as provided in this chapter. No person under sixteen years of age shall hunt or trap, except as provided in section 26-38.
(b) Any landowner who has a domiciliary residence in this state, his spouse or lineal descendants may hunt, trap or fish on land owned by him or on land leased by him and on which he is actually domiciled, which land is not used for club, fishing or hunting purposes, without a license, subject to the provisions of this chapter.
(c) No fishing license shall be required for any person who is rowing a boat or operating the motor of a boat from which other persons are taking or attempting to take fish.

(d) The taking of fish and bait species as herein provided shall be regarded as sport fishing and the taking of such species in the inland waters by commercial methods for commercial purposes shall be governed by other provisions of this chapter.
(e) No fishing license shall be required for any resident of the state who is participating in a fishing derby authorized in writing by the Commissioner of Environmental Protection provided (1) no fees are charged for such derby, (2) such derby has a duration of one day or less and (3) such derby is sponsored by a nonprofit civic service organization. Such organization shall be limited to one derby in any calendar year.
(f) The Commissioner of Environmental Protection may designate one day in each calendar year when no license shall be required for sport fishing.


Marine license Public Act language
Sec. 4. (NEW) (Effective June 15, 2009) (a) Except as provided in subsections (b), (d), (e) or (f) of this section and other provisions of chapter 490 of the general statutes providing specific license exemption, no person more than sixteen years of age shall take, attempt to take or assist in taking any fish or bait species in the marine district by any method or land marine fish and bait species in the state regardless of where such marine fish or bait species are taken, without first having obtained a marine waters fishing license as provided in section 5 of this act.
(b) No marine waters fishing license shall be required for any person who is rowing a boat or operating the motor of a boat from which other persons are taking or attempting to take fish.
(c) The taking of fish and bait species as herein provided shall be regarded as sport fishing and the taking or landing of such species in the marine district by commercial methods for commercial purposes shall be governed by other provisions of chapter 490 of the general statutes.
(d) No marine waters fishing license shall be required for any resident of the state who is participating in a fishing derby authorized in writing by the Commissioner of Environmental Protection provided (1) no fees are charged for such derby, (2) such derby has a duration of one day or less, and (3) such derby is sponsored by a nonprofit civic service organization. Such organization shall be limited to one derby in any calendar year.
(e) No marine waters fishing license shall be required for any person who is fishing as a passenger on a party boat, charter boat or head boat registered under section 26-142a of the general statutes and operating solely in the marine district.
(f) The Commissioner of Environmental Protection may designate one day in each calendar year when no license shall be required for sport fishing in the marine district. [/i]


Also I believe there are a couple of private hunting preserves where a state license is not required. Any comments on that situation?

If a location has a Private Waters permit that would allow you to fish there without a license.

Section 26-131 of the General Statutes. Registration of Private Waters. Any owner of private waters who desires to remove fish from such waters as provided for in this section shall apply to the board for a certificate of registration of such private waters on a form furnished by the board.
Such applicant shall furnish the board such information, under oath, as it deems necessary to carry out the provisions of this section. There shall be a fee of seventy dollars for the examination and registration of such private waters by the board and all such fees shall be remitted by the board to the state treasurer and by him applied to the general fund. Any owner of private waters which have been so registered may take, or permit guests to take, any species of fish from such waters at any season of the year, without a license, provided such waters have not been stocked at expense to the state and provided the board may make regulations governing and prescribing the methods of taking such fish and the conditions under which such fish may be removed from the premises, possessed and transported. The owner of such registered waters shall notify the director in writing, within forty-eight hours, of any change in ownership or other conditions which would invalidate the registration of such waters as private waters under the provisions of this section. Any person who holds such a certificate of registration and who violates any provision of this section or any regulation issued by the board as herein authorized shall be fined not more than two hundred dollars and the board may suspend or revoke such certificate.

Sec. 26-112-40 of the Regulations. Private Waters. Owners of private waters registered with the State Board of Fisheries and Game as provided by the general statutes, and their guests, may remove any species of fish from such waters by any method, except by the use of chemicals or explosives. Fish taken from such waters may be removed from the premises, possessed and transported at any season of the year without regard to legal lengths or daily creel limits, provided such fish, or the package containing such fish, shall have attached thereto a tag or label bearing legible writing showing the registration number issued for such water by the Fisheries Division, the name and address of the owner of such water, the number and species of fish, the date such fish were removed from such water and the name and address of the person removing the same. Such fish shall not be sold, offered for sale or exchange. No fee may be charged for the privilege of fishing in such water.


Thanks,
-o.f.
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#1186478 - 02/23/10 05:14 AM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: EnCon Police]
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Thanks a lot EnCon. I guess that leaves the charter fishing on the salt. Better than nothing.


Conrad seems to have some issue. Not sure what it is.

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#1187495 - 02/26/10 07:21 PM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: EnCon Police]
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I am a resident of Massachusetts. MA will not have a marine license til 2011. If I purchase a federal prmit in 2010 can I fish in CT waters with the federal permit?.....Thanks
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#1187565 - 02/26/10 10:45 PM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: EnCon Police]
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What is the penalty for not having a license?

Every now and then somebody I know decides to hop on my boat last minute who maybe fishes once per year.

I'd like to know the penalty if they got caught.

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#1187580 - 02/26/10 11:28 PM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: John from Madison CT]
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In RI, the first offense is $10. The fines go up after that, but you get your first fine for the cost of your permit.

Nice common sense rulez, if you have to have them that is.

Btw, the federal perit is free in 2010 and will cover you in RI and MA. Ct, well, I'm sure Encon will enlighten you.

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#1187591 - 02/27/10 12:16 AM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: gerg]
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Originally Posted By: gerg/greg

Btw, the federal perit is free in 2010 and will cover you in RI and MA. Ct, well, I'm sure Encon will enlighten you.




Please share Greg???
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#1187607 - 02/27/10 01:31 AM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: Lead Head]
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Share? I just didn't want to step on someone who knows for sure with my recollection of what they said last time. But, I believe Encon already said a fed permit wouldn't be recognized in ct.

To be fair though, it's only recognized in RI because the gov. originally vetoed the bill and they fell back to the fed permit. When they over-rode the veto, they left the allowance for the fed permit in place. MA just didn't pass a bill for 2010 and intentionally accepted the fed permit.

Ct, needs more of your money apparently.

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#1188156 - 03/01/10 12:14 PM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: gerg]
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CT does not recognize the federal permit for fishing in CT's portion of LIS. Right now you need either a NY or CT license...if you are a CT resident, the CT license is required. When the MA marine license goes into effect in 2011 it would be valid in CT's portion of LIS PROVIDED that MA recognizes a CT marine license in their waters. If MA does not offer reciprocal license privileges to CT license holders then we would not reciprocate for their license holders.
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#1194299 - 03/21/10 12:02 PM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: John from Madison CT]
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Originally Posted By: John from Madison CT
What is the penalty for not having a license?

Every now and then somebody I know decides to hop on my boat last minute who maybe fishes once per year.

I'd like to know the penalty if they got caught.



I would like to know what the fine is myself?????

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#1194476 - 03/22/10 12:16 AM Re: Marine License FAQ [Re: waynesworld]
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It might be cheaper to pay the fine then to get all these required licenses.


Edited by John from Madison CT (03/22/10 12:17 AM)

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