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#1181113 - 02/06/10 04:20 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
zyg Offline

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DJP, what's the groups opinion of H.B. 5018 and H.B. 5038?
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#1181157 - 02/06/10 07:52 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: zyg]
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Thanks for the replies.

I guess my frustration in letter writing is that my voice is being ignored by my elected officials. Its happening here at the local level and also on a national political level as well. Issues and tax increases are being rammed down the throats of hard working Americans against the general wants/consensus of the people.

I have to wonder if a letter is effective. I get junk mail in the box at home and my in box at the office. The first pass thru the pile I toss more than half of it in the garbage. The second pass another half gets tossed after opening the envelope. I have to wonder if this it what these politicians are doing as well.

There has to be a way of making more of an impact.

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#1181163 - 02/06/10 07:57 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: jonh]
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#1181190 - 02/06/10 10:35 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: chris med]
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I think it IS important to hear back when you a write a letter. Without a reply, I have no idea where my elected official stands on the issue. I have written three times to my Senator, and not had any response. I wanna know where she stands as a voter.


I agree John. Though my local Rep, John Rigby, has supposedly signed onto support this effort, I've written him three different letters and have never received a response back from him. I voted for him in the last election because he was a newcomer but, I've got some big issues with MY Reresentative when he fails to communicate.

Hope he's serious about supporting this effort.
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#1181229 - 02/07/10 07:03 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Jon Pski]
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Here is a response from my letter written to Rep. Sharkey from Hamden. I think it is generic and cheesey. Has anyone else contacted him?

"Well Brian, the irony is that the press and the public are criticizing the legislature for not doing enough about the hundreds of millions of dollars of deficits we're facing this year alone, and billions of dollars in deficits that we are facing in FY 2013 and beyond. The increase in fees is one of those tough decisions, and I'm sure your issue won't be the only example going forward.

As to the salt water licenses, you are in fact getting something, because had we not implemented our own fee, the federal government was scheduled to do so and would have kept those fees in Washington."

Rep. J. Brendan Sharkey
88th District - Hamden

I have written and sent a response letter asking for the money collected to be put toward our sport but have not received a response in a week. Time to send another one.

I am just curious as to where the money for saltwater licenses would have gone if the federal governmant had collected it first? And do you think the fed. gov. would have raised the rates after the initial year it was introduced?

BGL
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#1181267 - 02/07/10 10:35 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: BGLHooked]
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Zyg,

Let me preface my response by saying that I don't follow the bills daily, but get my information by talking to our lobbyists and via emails sent out by Bob Crook.

Regarding HB 5018 and 5038: 5038 was submitted by Rep Hurlburt- He is a solid supporter, who attended the sportsmen's meeting at Cabela's on Nov 4th, and will be a leader on this issue. Right now, that bill is sitting in the Environment Committee. There was also a bill introduced by Sen Defronzo of New Britain calling for fee reductions. I expect that we'll receve an update from Bob on Tuesday night, regarding how these bills will be aligned or not, since I believe that the intent of Sen Defronzo's bill was to respond to a senior citizen constituent who complained of the inability to pay higher fees.

Regarding HB 5018, believe that is the larger budget adjustment bill submitted by Rep Cafero in response to dwindling revenues. Don't know your specific question, but I haven't heard any comments on it. I will only say that as a general comment from my friend John Larkin, "the revenue challenges facing the general assembly are staggering".

John H.

I agree that this can be frustrating. I'm running into this with my Rep, Demetrios Gennaros in the 22nd district. He's not onboard yet, and gave me lip service last fall. He hasn't yet returned my email asking him to state his support or opposition to fee reduction. My next action is to call his office later this week,and ask his aide to have him give me a call to discuss.

My communications plan is to be: 1)polite, 2) fact based and 3) persistant. This effort is more like a marathon than a sprint.

I had much better success with my State Senator, Jonathan Harris. He was unaware of this issue, but now has become a supporter and I have offered to assist him in any way I can in understanding the fee impacts, since he is neither an angler nor a hunter.

Finally, Bob's website has many good tips on how to communicate with legislators and how to work through obstacles in the communications process.


BGLHooked:

Don't know if your Fed saltwater fees question was directed to me, but if memory serves me, I believe that the Feds would have used the money to support the registry data collection efforts, with perhaps only a small portion, if anything, coming back back to Ct.
I'm kind of fuzzy on that one, since those specifics were discussed at the CAC during the 2008 timeframe and I wasn't as close to it.
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#1181269 - 02/07/10 10:37 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: jonh]
Tony Mel Offline

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Jon, Chris and Jon,

It appears that reps replying to letters is diverting attention from the real objective; letter-wrting. I agree with your concerns and it would be courteous and politically wise for a rep to reply to our letters.
However, I have a greater concern that the expressed frustration will undermine the motivation for letter writing.

Dave Proulx's (DJP) posts provided " insider" statements that our letter writing is an important and effective action.

IMO, all CTFers need to expend energy on leadership, positive motivation and responsible action. This is a political fight and we need large #s of CTFers to write letters in support of our "insiders".

To further address your concerns:

1. Bob Crooks, Sportmen's Lobbyist will be addressing our site in the near future and through Dave, I've asked that his post address your concerns.

2. I am trying to find a pipeline to a state rep, to also respond to your concerns.

3. Senator Toni Harp's assistant is a friend. I'll pose the same question to her and post her response.

Our "insiders" state that letter-writing is effective. Have faith that they are in the "know" and consider they have nothing to gain by wasting our time.



Edited by Tony Mel (02/08/10 12:46 PM)

Our lakes, rivers and streams are borrowed from our children.

Largeness is a life long matter. You grow because you are not content not to. You are like a beaver that chews constantly because if it doesn’t, its teeth grow long and lock. You grow because you are a grower; you are large because you can’t stand to be small.
Wallace Stegner, “Crossing To Safety”


Tony
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#1181270 - 02/07/10 10:48 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: DJP]
Tony Mel Offline

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Registered: 01/24/08
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Loc: West Hartford
Dave,
Seems like we are writing concurrently on the same issue. smile1

BGL, I know there is post on this sight that may debunk your reps reply. I think your rep is misinformed.

I beleive ZYG or Sswind made the post. Since they are saltwater fisherman, they may be able to find the post, .

Our lakes, rivers and streams are borrowed from our children.

Largeness is a life long matter. You grow because you are not content not to. You are like a beaver that chews constantly because if it doesn’t, its teeth grow long and lock. You grow because you are a grower; you are large because you can’t stand to be small.
Wallace Stegner, “Crossing To Safety”


Tony
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#1181284 - 02/07/10 11:40 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: DJP]
Tony Mel Offline

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Loc: West Hartford
Originally Posted By: DJP
Zyg,

as a general comment from my friend John Larkin, "the revenue challenges facing the general assembly are staggering".



With respect to Proulx's post, the above excerpt points to the main argument made in the Sportsman Fee Increases Negatively Impact State Revenue Flyer

The flyer powerpointed by ZYG sets forth points made by Buck, Bob Crooks and Jon Pski. It is a powerful document that should be sent to every rep.

In short, the flyer concludes that the states budgetary interest is served by a fee reduction. Think about the flyer's statement, "CT you can take $20 from me but it will cost you millions of revenue dollars."


Edited by Tony Mel (02/07/10 11:40 AM)

Our lakes, rivers and streams are borrowed from our children.

Largeness is a life long matter. You grow because you are not content not to. You are like a beaver that chews constantly because if it doesn’t, its teeth grow long and lock. You grow because you are a grower; you are large because you can’t stand to be small.
Wallace Stegner, “Crossing To Safety”


Tony
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#1181385 - 02/07/10 04:58 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
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Registered: 07/22/04
Posts: 311
Loc: New Haven CT
DJP and Tony,

Thank you for your response to my post. I have not been active enough on this topic and I am changing my ways now. I will write another letter until I get a clear response from my rep. to ensure that he understands my and so many others point of view. Everybody together can make a difference.

Brian

BGL
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