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#1188871 - 03/03/10 07:30 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
TommyTrebble Offline

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Registered: 11/20/05
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Loc: Waterbury
Originally Posted By: Tony Mel
[ Because the editorial will receive public scrutiny I am looking for edit feedback from any who wish to do so.


I'm against any new taxes Tony, IMO, that is what is coming down the pipe for everyone because most people don't understand the out-of-control spending our Federal government is engaged in at this time. Trying to shift the burden to another group, like "Out of State Truckers", is not a good idea. In the long run, it's only going to cost us more. I do believe in the two disciplined spending strategies you proposed, at some point, the problems with the "Sweet deals" the State Union workers have will have to be dealt with. THAT is the biggest reasons we are on this mess, instead of our State leaders trying to address that, they want to feed the Monster with more of our money. I understand many of our State Reps are opposed to a proposed new lottery game (KENO), but if it is going to generate some revenue, why not ?? At least it is not burdening some one else with new taxes.



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#1188898 - 03/03/10 08:57 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: TommyTrebble]
Tony Mel Offline

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Thanks for feedback. Chris ad Jig Head suggested all revenue point should be removed from the editorial for other reasons. Chris (Cblanc) is redrafting the editorial, since his writing skills are much better than mine.

I thought you were going to sunny Florida. I am in Florida and it is cold for here-high 50's and 60's. Staying near the Harris chain of lakes. Put on shorts once in 8-days.

Our lakes, rivers and streams are borrowed from our children.

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#1188944 - 03/03/10 10:56 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
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Tony i'm happy to re-write what you wrote, i wouldn't be changing much. But to do a full-fledged really intense article i just don't have the time. We're about to have a baby and I am being drawn in too many directions. However, some bullet point facts would be very useful in beefing it up if anyone out there has the data. For example, i could really use the following:

- number of licenses sold per year since 2002. If there is another reliable way to count the number of outdoor sportsman in the state that'd be great too, but i don't know what it is.

- I'm sure someone, the state, chamber of commerce, etc., worked out a deal of incentives with Cabela's to open in CT. (Not saying we need to play hardball, but surely CT has a vested interest in Cabela's and vice versa) Cabela's didn't go public back in 2003; but maybe we can dig up what sales were at a Cabela's or BPS in the year before and after a license fee hike in some other state. Basically, can someone tell me if a state raised license fees and if so does it have a BPS or Cabela's in it.

- The multiplier effect and revenue breakdown that has been listed in the flyers, etc. Exactly how is it being figured out, the loss of revenues for the state I mean? What are the components?

- More precise numbers on what contributions license fees made to DEP, conservation, wildlife mgmnt, etc. in the past vs. what will be allocated now. What percentage of the total budget for that (DEP, conservation...) came from our license fees?

- Does anyone know, I heard a rumor, is the cost of a driver's license doubling too??

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#1189118 - 03/03/10 06:55 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
TommyTrebble Offline

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Registered: 11/20/05
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Loc: Waterbury
Originally Posted By: Tony Mel
I thought you were going to sunny Florida. I am in Florida and it is cold for here-high 50's and 60's. Staying near the Harris chain of lakes. Put on shorts once in 8-days.


My flight is on the 14th, will be back up on the 19th. I usually try to goto Arizona or Florida in mid to late March (although it's been a few years now...) because I find the weather is usually very good around then and Spring Training Baseball is better then the first couple weeks of March.

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#1189209 - 03/03/10 09:58 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: CBlanc]
Tony Mel Offline

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Loc: West Hartford
Originally Posted By: CBlanc
Tony i'm happy to re-write what you wrote, i wouldn't be changing much.


Chris, Maybe I over stated your offer, which was,"... run the piece through a spelling/grammar checker - or i could do that if you want."
I agree with you and jig head that revenue producing strategies, ect, are not productive. I was trying to incorporate some of Swifty's points which as you suggest would be better stated in an editorial pertaining to the budget crisis.

My draft is not an article. It is intended to be a letter to the Hartford Courant editorial page and could serve as a letter to other newspapers.. The data was pulled together by JonPski. His source is documented in the flyer on this forum. Pelase work with the data in my draft, wordsmith it and give it a grammer check.

Thanks

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#1190930 - 03/10/10 11:59 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
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Well I have to go with my poor writing skills. Thanks for the input,I did receive. This is a redraft of my letter to the editor of the Hartford Courant. Hopefully, the letter is something other CTFers will send to their local papers and or their reps..

If you are not sure how to send an letter to the editor, I well do it for you. Just PM me your newspapers name, and your name and address. I'll be sending the editorial under your name.

The Letter

Sportsmen’s Fee Increase Negatively Impacts CT’s Budgetary Crisis

The General Assembly increased many Sportsmen-Fees by 100% for 2010 in order to help raise state revenue. However, Sportsmen Fees are sensitive to price increases, because CT and non-resident Sportsmen have buying options. CT imposes the highest Fees of any contiguous state, so, many sportsmen will purchase licenses out of state and many sportsmen will give up their sport. The loss of CT sportsmen will result in a loss of tourism and sportsmen’s expenditures in our state. History demonstrates that a loss of sportsmen expenditures will cause a loss of state revenue.

In 2003 Sportsmen’s Fees were increased 40%. The Fee increase caused a loss of licensed sportsmen and sporting goods expenditures in CT. As a result of these state losses CT realized a relatively small gain in fee revenue, while the following losses were realized:

• A loss of over 200 jobs from sportsmen related businesses,
• $14.5m decrease in fishing and hunting retail sales ,
• Loss of $980,000 in Sales Tax
• and, a total loss of $25.3 million to state revenue through a negative economic multiplier effect.
*** Data source: www.asafishing.org


Beware, 2003’s state-revenue losses occurred in financially good times, while 2010’s, Fee increase is imposed in financially bad times. Alarmingly, 2010’s revenue a gain from the Fee purchases will be dwarfed by unintended, state-revenue losses.

Surely, there are many ways the state could increase revenues without imposing a disproportionate financial burden on a small group of hobbyist, while not doing damage to CT’s already fragile economy. (Re-installing toll booths on the Merit Parkway and I-95 come to mind. I have to pay for tolls traveling through MA, NJ, NY, ME, PA. I just paid $28 to pass through Florida.)

Raising Sportsmen’s Fees will diminish support for our natural resources and negatively impact state revenue.

It makes no “cents”.

Tony Melito
72 Timberwood Rd.
West Hartford, CT

Our lakes, rivers and streams are borrowed from our children.

Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.
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#1190931 - 03/10/10 12:10 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
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Tony,great letter, thank you.

I know I'm being picky but I believe Merit Parkway should be spelled Merritt Parkway.

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#1191647 - 03/12/10 02:22 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: RayZCT]
Tony Mel Offline

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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 2078
Loc: West Hartford
Just received a reply to my email from Rep Bly. wtf

Dear Representative Bye,

I am very disappointed in your representation of “representative government". Your response to my letter is a form letter response that does not address the input I provided. My message to you is copied below.
Your closing Paragraph is an embarrassment to one who voted for you and degrades representative government; “I would consider supporting a decrease in the fees if and only if a fair and equitable budgetary offset can be found".

Sportsmen’s Fee Increase Negatively Impacts CT’s Budgetary Crisis

The General Assembly increased many Sportsmen-Fees by 100% for 2010 in order to help raise state revenue. However, Sportsmen Fees are sensitive to price increases, because CT and non-resident Sportsmen have buying options. CT imposes the highest Fees of any contiguous state, so, many sportsmen will purchase licenses out of state and many sportsmen will give up their sport. The loss of CT sportsmen will result in a loss of tourism and sportsmen’s expenditures in our state. History demonstrates that a loss of sportsmen expenditures will cause a loss of state revenue.

In 2003 Sportsmen’s Fees were increased 40%. The Fee increase caused a loss of licensed sportsmen and sporting goods expenditures in CT. As a result of these state losses CT realized a relatively small gain in fee revenue, while the following losses were realized:

• A loss of over 200 jobs from sportsmen related businesses,
• $14.5m decrease in fishing and hunting retail sales ,
• Loss of $980,000 in Sales Tax
• and, a total loss of $25.3 million to state revenue through a negative economic multiplier effect.
*** Data source: www.asafishing.org


Beware, 2003’s state-revenue losses occurred in financially good times, while 2010’s, Fee increase is imposed in financially bad times. Alarmingly, 2010’s revenue a gain from the Fee purchases will be dwarfed by unintended, state-revenue losses.

Surely, there are many ways the state could increase revenues without imposing a disproportionate financial burden on a small group of hobbyist, while not doing damage to CT’s already fragile economy. (Re-installing toll booths on the Merit Parkway and I-95 come to mind. I have to pay for tolls traveling through MA, NJ, NY, ME, PA. I just paid $28 to pass through Florida.)

Raising Sportsmen’s Fees will diminish support for our natural resources and negatively impact state revenue.

It makes no “cents”.

Tony Melito
72 Timberwood Rd.
West Hartford, CT











Edited by Tony Mel (03/12/10 04:29 PM)

Our lakes, rivers and streams are borrowed from our children.

Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.
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#1191824 - 03/13/10 09:26 AM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Tony Mel]
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Registered: 10/24/03
Posts: 645
Loc: Westbrook
Just sent out my emails to the locals reps. Ill post a reply if I get one. Here's the letter I wrote.


I am writing in regards to concerns of overall sportsmen fees and state park fees.(more so salt water license fees) As a life long resident of Newington and Connecticut I am thoroughly disgusted with the increase in these fees and there should be immediate action to resolve this. The residents of Connecticut have been suffering long enough due to grotesque over spending by Connecticut's politicians. More so it bothers me that Connecticut chooses not to put money generated by sportsmens fees and state park revenue back into the DEP and Long Island Sound.

Recreational fishing and state parks have been a past time of Connecticut residents dating back to its earliest settlers. I understand the purpose of the of the salt water license, but for the life of me cannot justify the fee. Maybe you could help in doing so. The fact that our fisheries, fisheries management, & fisheries protection receive less funding each year is proof that this is just another way for Connecticut's politicians to pass the buck and dodge some accountability.

We may be on the verge of something epic this year. The state may just destroy one of its last great natural resources, Connecticut State Parks and saltwater fishing. I hope you that you stand up for fee reductions and for the residents of Connecticut.



Michael Zarotney
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#1192045 - 03/13/10 09:07 PM Re: 7. Legislator’s Replies and Your Commentary & Discussion Thread [Re: Fish Finder]
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Registered: 10/24/03
Posts: 645
Loc: Westbrook
Here's the Reply from Sandy Nafis

Hi Michael

Thanks for your email regarding the fee increases that occurred for parks and fishing. Several of us have been working to get these rolled back, and I want to see if happen in the next few weeks when we go in so as not to impact the spring visits to our parks. We are in a difficult position with the economy, but these are a place for all of our residents and should be affordable and accessible for everyone.

Sandy
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