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#1299516 - 03/11/11 01:40 PM Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees
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This was sent to me by a friend who lives in Mass:

"Lake Congamond Usage Fee
The Town of Southwick tried to raise the ramp fee at the state boat ramp at Lake Congamond by $10. This got derailed by the Office of Fishing and Boating Access as the extra monies over the already in place $5 fee were not going back to the ramp but directly to the Southwick Police Department.
Now the town is pushing for a “Lake usage sticker program” where every boat that uses Lake Congamond would be forced to buy a yearly sticker to the tune of $60. From what I understand there would be a one day provision for $10 also for Southwick residents who do not reside on the shores of Congamond they would be charged $20 and for lake shore owners there would be no charge. To do this Southwick has enlisted the help of Senator Michael Knapik. The “sticker program” would need a change in the Massachusetts state law which is where the Senator comes in.
The passage of such a state law would be extremely damaging to EVERY boater who uses the waters of Massachusetts. The Lake Congamond sticker program would set a precedent for every association and town out there to start their own program and next thing you know we are paying thousands of dollars just to boat on different waters within the state.
We have a chance to stop this before it gets started. As of yet Senator Knapik has not introduced any legislation. Please voice your opinion to Senator Knapik and let him know we do not want such a bill proposed and we vehemently oppose such an action. You can e mail Senator Michael Knapik at Michael.Knapik@masenate.gov or send a letter to his office address which follows;
57 North Elm Street
Westfield, MA 01085"

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#1299562 - 03/11/11 06:20 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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More Commies!!!

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#1299964 - 03/13/11 07:53 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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Your going to see more and more of this type of action soon. Candlewood Lake may very well be next. In these tough economic times, municipalities are going to get creative on how they raise revenue, and this is one of them. They get to raise revenue with the advantage of keeping out of towners off their water.
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#1300175 - 03/14/11 01:01 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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I have two friends that live on Congamond, its pretty ridiculous how crowded that place gets with boats and jet skis on weekends, plus with a bar on the water and drunk people driving around, I'm surprised there isn't more accidents..

The people that own property on the Lake have a right to be upset, there's like a million bass tourney's on it and its way to busy on weekends for cruising around...

I'm not saying the proposed bill is the answer to the problems, but the Lake Association has been trying to cut down on boat traffic for quite sometime, all it takes it a few hooks stuck in peoples custom boat covers, a few jetskiers driving like idiots and the bad rap is set...

I'm sure if you guys owned water front property on a lake that had way to many boats on it, you might be on the other side??? I know I would, but since I'm the outta towner, thats BS biggrin

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#1300190 - 03/14/11 02:13 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Conrad G.]
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Originally Posted By: Conrad G.
More Commies!!!


Actually these guys would be Capitalists. a.k.a. you got to pay to play.

Commies would would take the lake from the private owners and re-distribute it. wink2

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#1300357 - 03/15/11 07:44 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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I have a friend who lives on a lake in Wrentham,MA. His lake association managed to do this for the same reasons and the state's repsonse was to stop stocking and signifigantly decreased their ENCON type enforcement. Living on the Westfield/Southwick line as I do, Congamond is a convenient place to do a few shakedown trips but that place is an outright zoo once the weather gets warm, I travel mostly to the shore or Otis Res if I am going to go out during the warmer months even though Congamond is only 10 minutes from my house, it is just not an enjoyable place to be. Even with pretty adequate enforcement out there the amount of straight up cocked spoiled teenagers in their parents fast ski boats is enough to keep me away during the summer.

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#1300365 - 03/15/11 08:27 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Bent Twig]
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Originally Posted By: Bent Twig
Living on the Westfield/Southwick line as I do, Congamond is a convenient place to do a few shakedown trips but that place is an outright zoo once the weather gets warm, I travel mostly to the shore or Otis Res if I am going to go out during the warmer months even though Congamond is only 10 minutes from my house, it is just not an enjoyable place to be. Even with pretty adequate enforcement out there the amount of straight up cocked spoiled teenagers in their parents fast ski boats is enough to keep me away during the summer.


I also live 10 minutes away and I couldn't have said it better myself! I also blame the convenient proximity to Springfield for the outrageous boating behavior I've seen on the water there.
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#1300376 - 03/15/11 09:25 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Tmack9200]
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So....it's not really about the money, it's about overcrowding, drunken boating, irresponsible boating.

Enforce the rules on the books - don't add new fees.

Hoping the increased fees will cut down on the problems is as STUPID as having HP limits to control boat speed rolleyes .......just control the speeding.

Increasing fees only cuts out the financially challenged.....not the mentally challenged....and being poor is a curable condition, while stupid can last a lifetime.

Adding fees is not the cure for stupid.
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#1300426 - 03/15/11 12:23 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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If it's too crowded it's not due to the general public as parking is limited, once the lots are full, no more public. The issue is with the lake front property owners themselves.

Funny, but the package store on the south shore of the middle lake brags about being the best packy on the lake then the residents complain about the boozers.

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#1303478 - 03/28/11 04:27 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Tmack9200]
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Originally Posted By: Tmack9200
I have two friends that live on Congamond, its pretty ridiculous how crowded that place gets with boats and jet skis on weekends, plus with a bar on the water and drunk people driving around, I'm surprised there isn't more accidents..

The people that own property on the Lake have a right to be upset, there's like a million bass tourney's on it and its way to busy on weekends for cruising around...

I'm not saying the proposed bill is the answer to the problems, but the Lake Association has been trying to cut down on boat traffic for quite sometime, all it takes it a few hooks stuck in peoples custom boat covers, a few jetskiers driving like idiots and the bad rap is set...

I'm sure if you guys owned water front property on a lake that had way to many boats on it, you might be on the other side??? I know I would, but since I'm the outta towner, thats BS biggrin


Here's another one who thinks its the fisherman who go there to the PUBLIC LAUNCH and over crowd the lake.

FYI BUDDY, there is a limit to the amount of tournament fishing boats allowed on that lake at one time. It is equal to half the available spots for parking at the launch, which comes to 15 boats out on that lake on any given day for a tournament. Those 15 boats are not anywhere near the cause of the HEAVY TRAFFIC, and even if that number is doubled, it would not be the traffic. IT IS THE LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS using there own lake that cause too much traffic.

Ya know, even if they said no more tournaments, you would only see (but probably not even notice it) 15 less boats out there. That's gotta be like taking a cup of sand of a beach and thinking it would ruin the beach.

Candlewood Lake claims the same nonsense about tournaments, but refuses to realize, that on any given day with a tournament, there are only about 100 boats participating at a maximum, which could only be half the available parking spaces at the PUBLIC LAUNCHES (Squantz allows 50 boats, and Lattins, 50 boats). 100 boats out on Candy does not cause the problem, it's the 6000+ boats docked on it that causes it.

Yea, hooks stuck in covers is bad, for sure, but that's the cause of traffic or two many boats. One could probably prove, that if there was less traffic, less missed casts cuz of the excess waves, but I won't try to prove that one. smile1

The best way to fix the traffic is to slow it down. I know if they made more no wake zones on Candy, less problems.

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