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#1299516 - 03/11/11 01:40 PM Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees
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This was sent to me by a friend who lives in Mass:

"Lake Congamond Usage Fee
The Town of Southwick tried to raise the ramp fee at the state boat ramp at Lake Congamond by $10. This got derailed by the Office of Fishing and Boating Access as the extra monies over the already in place $5 fee were not going back to the ramp but directly to the Southwick Police Department.
Now the town is pushing for a “Lake usage sticker program” where every boat that uses Lake Congamond would be forced to buy a yearly sticker to the tune of $60. From what I understand there would be a one day provision for $10 also for Southwick residents who do not reside on the shores of Congamond they would be charged $20 and for lake shore owners there would be no charge. To do this Southwick has enlisted the help of Senator Michael Knapik. The “sticker program” would need a change in the Massachusetts state law which is where the Senator comes in.
The passage of such a state law would be extremely damaging to EVERY boater who uses the waters of Massachusetts. The Lake Congamond sticker program would set a precedent for every association and town out there to start their own program and next thing you know we are paying thousands of dollars just to boat on different waters within the state.
We have a chance to stop this before it gets started. As of yet Senator Knapik has not introduced any legislation. Please voice your opinion to Senator Knapik and let him know we do not want such a bill proposed and we vehemently oppose such an action. You can e mail Senator Michael Knapik at Michael.Knapik@masenate.gov or send a letter to his office address which follows;
57 North Elm Street
Westfield, MA 01085"

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#1299562 - 03/11/11 06:20 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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More Commies!!!

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#1299964 - 03/13/11 07:53 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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Your going to see more and more of this type of action soon. Candlewood Lake may very well be next. In these tough economic times, municipalities are going to get creative on how they raise revenue, and this is one of them. They get to raise revenue with the advantage of keeping out of towners off their water.
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#1300175 - 03/14/11 01:01 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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I have two friends that live on Congamond, its pretty ridiculous how crowded that place gets with boats and jet skis on weekends, plus with a bar on the water and drunk people driving around, I'm surprised there isn't more accidents..

The people that own property on the Lake have a right to be upset, there's like a million bass tourney's on it and its way to busy on weekends for cruising around...

I'm not saying the proposed bill is the answer to the problems, but the Lake Association has been trying to cut down on boat traffic for quite sometime, all it takes it a few hooks stuck in peoples custom boat covers, a few jetskiers driving like idiots and the bad rap is set...

I'm sure if you guys owned water front property on a lake that had way to many boats on it, you might be on the other side??? I know I would, but since I'm the outta towner, thats BS biggrin

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#1300190 - 03/14/11 02:13 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Conrad G.]
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Originally Posted By: Conrad G.
More Commies!!!


Actually these guys would be Capitalists. a.k.a. you got to pay to play.

Commies would would take the lake from the private owners and re-distribute it. wink2

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#1300357 - 03/15/11 07:44 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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I have a friend who lives on a lake in Wrentham,MA. His lake association managed to do this for the same reasons and the state's repsonse was to stop stocking and signifigantly decreased their ENCON type enforcement. Living on the Westfield/Southwick line as I do, Congamond is a convenient place to do a few shakedown trips but that place is an outright zoo once the weather gets warm, I travel mostly to the shore or Otis Res if I am going to go out during the warmer months even though Congamond is only 10 minutes from my house, it is just not an enjoyable place to be. Even with pretty adequate enforcement out there the amount of straight up cocked spoiled teenagers in their parents fast ski boats is enough to keep me away during the summer.

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#1300365 - 03/15/11 08:27 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Bent Twig]
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Originally Posted By: Bent Twig
Living on the Westfield/Southwick line as I do, Congamond is a convenient place to do a few shakedown trips but that place is an outright zoo once the weather gets warm, I travel mostly to the shore or Otis Res if I am going to go out during the warmer months even though Congamond is only 10 minutes from my house, it is just not an enjoyable place to be. Even with pretty adequate enforcement out there the amount of straight up cocked spoiled teenagers in their parents fast ski boats is enough to keep me away during the summer.


I also live 10 minutes away and I couldn't have said it better myself! I also blame the convenient proximity to Springfield for the outrageous boating behavior I've seen on the water there.
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#1300376 - 03/15/11 09:25 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Tmack9200]
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So....it's not really about the money, it's about overcrowding, drunken boating, irresponsible boating.

Enforce the rules on the books - don't add new fees.

Hoping the increased fees will cut down on the problems is as STUPID as having HP limits to control boat speed rolleyes .......just control the speeding.

Increasing fees only cuts out the financially challenged.....not the mentally challenged....and being poor is a curable condition, while stupid can last a lifetime.

Adding fees is not the cure for stupid.
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#1300426 - 03/15/11 12:23 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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If it's too crowded it's not due to the general public as parking is limited, once the lots are full, no more public. The issue is with the lake front property owners themselves.

Funny, but the package store on the south shore of the middle lake brags about being the best packy on the lake then the residents complain about the boozers.

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#1303478 - 03/28/11 04:27 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Tmack9200]
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Originally Posted By: Tmack9200
I have two friends that live on Congamond, its pretty ridiculous how crowded that place gets with boats and jet skis on weekends, plus with a bar on the water and drunk people driving around, I'm surprised there isn't more accidents..

The people that own property on the Lake have a right to be upset, there's like a million bass tourney's on it and its way to busy on weekends for cruising around...

I'm not saying the proposed bill is the answer to the problems, but the Lake Association has been trying to cut down on boat traffic for quite sometime, all it takes it a few hooks stuck in peoples custom boat covers, a few jetskiers driving like idiots and the bad rap is set...

I'm sure if you guys owned water front property on a lake that had way to many boats on it, you might be on the other side??? I know I would, but since I'm the outta towner, thats BS biggrin


Here's another one who thinks its the fisherman who go there to the PUBLIC LAUNCH and over crowd the lake.

FYI BUDDY, there is a limit to the amount of tournament fishing boats allowed on that lake at one time. It is equal to half the available spots for parking at the launch, which comes to 15 boats out on that lake on any given day for a tournament. Those 15 boats are not anywhere near the cause of the HEAVY TRAFFIC, and even if that number is doubled, it would not be the traffic. IT IS THE LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS using there own lake that cause too much traffic.

Ya know, even if they said no more tournaments, you would only see (but probably not even notice it) 15 less boats out there. That's gotta be like taking a cup of sand of a beach and thinking it would ruin the beach.

Candlewood Lake claims the same nonsense about tournaments, but refuses to realize, that on any given day with a tournament, there are only about 100 boats participating at a maximum, which could only be half the available parking spaces at the PUBLIC LAUNCHES (Squantz allows 50 boats, and Lattins, 50 boats). 100 boats out on Candy does not cause the problem, it's the 6000+ boats docked on it that causes it.

Yea, hooks stuck in covers is bad, for sure, but that's the cause of traffic or two many boats. One could probably prove, that if there was less traffic, less missed casts cuz of the excess waves, but I won't try to prove that one. smile1

The best way to fix the traffic is to slow it down. I know if they made more no wake zones on Candy, less problems.

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#1303483 - 03/28/11 04:49 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: swwind]
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Originally Posted By: swwind
Originally Posted By: Conrad G.
More Commies!!!


Actually these guys would be Capitalists. a.k.a. you got to pay to play.

Commies would would take the lake from the private owners and re-distribute it. wink2


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#1303652 - 03/29/11 10:03 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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Its a lake and it shouldn't cost to fish it. I think it's ridiculous and people should just boycott the lake.


Edited by Bassaddiction (03/29/11 10:03 AM)

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#1303657 - 03/29/11 10:14 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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bassman c-mond has a 25 boat limit for tourneys... and they'll allow more but the club has to day for an enconn officer to patrol the lake for the day if over 25

c-mond could save alot of boater problems by extended there speed limit hours. right now its 10mph till 10am (weekends) make it 20mph till 2pm... im assuming they cant water ski at that speed.

and i love the NO PWC rule in north pond, but when u get 4 boats wake boarding in that small area its dangerous. wish they'd make that whole area under speed limit
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#1303679 - 03/29/11 11:56 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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totally agree with your last point DP. There should be NO water skiing allowed in north pond. It's just too small. It is an accident waiting to happen.

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#1303849 - 03/30/11 03:16 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: BASSMANinCT]
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I do live 15 mins. away but I do fish it in the spring!,the problem is the BASSHOLES PREFISHING!!!!!.They come out with there 300hp boats cut us trout guys off drop there 100lb thrust trolling motors and start fishing 30 feet in front of me!! they think they own the lake.My fishing buddy is a turney fishermen and I`m trying to break him!!,A lot of my posts I right about BASSHOLES is because of this lake,they need to reduce the HP in the spring to 25 like Quabbin res.
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#1303860 - 03/30/11 07:33 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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The size of the boat doesn't create the problems, people do!

Courtesy on the water goes a long way. Set the example.

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#1303864 - 03/30/11 08:02 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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I wished they would lower the speed limits.

But I'll say this, nothing throws wakes like those big pontoon boats,
and those big asssss pleasure boats.
Those Bass boat wakes don't even come close!!

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#1303878 - 03/30/11 09:09 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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My father used to take us there in the 1950's to fish and swim at Babb's beach as I recall. We then did alot of trout and bass fishing there in the 1970's and had the lake to ourselves many days.
I know I'm dating myself but it's sad to hear some of these comments about a great lake that should be open for free to everyone IMHO.
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#1303903 - 03/30/11 10:22 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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OK - Time for my 2c - there are alot of valid point brought uphere so i'll just pick 'em in no particular order.
1 - if they are so concerned about safety - why is there a bar allowed to be on the water where you know for a fact that if someone came in on a boat, has a drink or two that they are now driving a boat on the water under the influence - no room for error there.
2 - water skiers are a (space) problem everywhere. this lake is relatively small compared to candlewood but i've never had skier problem on zoar or bantam as they have a specific ski area and for the most part they are courteous.
3- as for the ''bassholes'' unfortunately there are some out there and those few do seem to find a way of ruining the rest of ours reputation - personally if i accidentally hook a rope or a pole on a boat I will not leave that dock till i retrive the said hook...unfortunately i cannot controll those idiots - yes idiots who endanger people espescially kids by theire carlesness..as well as some of those same peoples language - but dont let those few inconsiderites be the mold on which you judge the lot...you will never see or hear anyone from my club or tbf act like that - if you do please let me know (pm me with you and contact info) and I WILL confront the individual and do my best to recitfy the situation..ran out of room here..sorry to babble smile1

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#1303984 - 03/30/11 04:33 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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I love Congamond, but there's no way it's worth that amount of money to fish among all the idiot boaters. So if they pass that sticker deal, it will have successfully reduced the potential boat traffic by at least one boat. Mine.

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#1304169 - 03/31/11 10:19 AM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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agreed rich..make that two boats

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#1304299 - 03/31/11 06:29 PM Re: Congamond Proposed Lake Usage Fees [Re: Barn1]
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It won't be passed Rich, I think its already been killed.

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