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#1766212 - 05/30/19 01:02 PM Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances
Mitch P. Offline



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A bill that would prevent smoking and vaping at Hammonasset State Beach In Madison and other state parks has passed the state Senate

https://patch.com/connecticut/madison-ct/smoking-vaping-ban-bill-hammonasset-other-parks-advances
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#1766253 - 05/30/19 08:57 PM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mitch P.]
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What about farting

That would be a Bill worth voting on.




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#1766276 - 05/31/19 06:25 AM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Jighead]
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Originally Posted By: Jighead
What about farting

That would be a Bill worth voting on.





It would probably pass in Connecticut!

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#1766283 - 05/31/19 07:58 AM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mitch P.]
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I'd be in jail, on death row. No parole.

Last meal would be beans.

Everything I eat turns to steam. I'm farting right now. Thanks to shawarma at 130 am in NYC. SNnort on that overly liberal CT!
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#1766289 - 05/31/19 09:38 AM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mitch P.]
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Iím actually ok with this. Smoking is an activity that affects people around you that isnít related to the location. For example, if I go camping, I can expect smoke from a fire. If I go to the casino, I can expect cigarette smoke and all other things related to the casino.

If Iím sitting at the beach and the dude next to me is smoking or vaping with no regard to where he is exhaling, thatís BS. It still amazes me that so many people are either ignorant to their surroundings or donít give a $hit.

I also donít think we should be having dogs on planes and a bunch of other stuff too.
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#1766292 - 05/31/19 10:48 AM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mycept]
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Originally Posted By: Mycept
Iím actually ok with this. Smoking is an activity that affects people around you that isnít related to the location. For example, if I go camping, I can expect smoke from a fire. If I go to the casino, I can expect cigarette smoke and all other things related to the casino.

If Iím sitting at the beach and the dude next to me is smoking or vaping with no regard to where he is exhaling, thatís BS. It still amazes me that so many people are either ignorant to their surroundings or donít give a $hit.

I also donít think we should be having dogs on planes and a bunch of other stuff too.



I get what you're saying, but the problem in your scenario is not smoking/vaping. It's people being assholes and doing it near others. If banning it all together is the solution to people being inconsiderate then lets ban music, kites, smelly food, loud kids... what else? Anything else annoy anyone?

It's like banning fishing because a few people litter/abuse rules. Would you be ok if the solution was to ban fishing altogether?
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#1766293 - 05/31/19 10:52 AM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mitch P.]
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Totally agree. Can't stand cigarettes anywhere.

And I have mixed feelings on all the vaping.

Most vapors seem like people I wouldn't trust around kids. But I get the convenience of vaping for those who partake in the green leaf. As for vaping all the other substances, I won't pretend to even know what they are. Seems like a bad habit.
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#1766303 - 05/31/19 01:11 PM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mitch P.]
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The other substances are nicotine, and they're no worse than alcohol or over eating.


Are we banning these for legitimate concerns or because we don't like them? Any article that says "multiple studies" but does not link the studies or provide a source should not really be taken at face value.


We barely have a grasp on if vaping is harmful to the person actually using it, so how would we have any idea about second hand vaping? Chronic affects take years to study and must be done carefully to have any meaningful results. Vaping has not been around long enough for second hand affects to be remotely close to understood.

So again, are we banning them because we don't like them or because there are legitimate concerns? Our legislators are making laws about topics they do not understand.


Regardless, people should not be vaping near others. But that is not the vape's fault, its the person being an #*&!. I don't see how this law helps that. Cigarette butts on the ground? That's littering, already banned. But it still happens right? Well maybe because simply banning something is a broad, ineffective strategy.


Conspiracy theory time here:
I'm pretty confident that none of the politicians give a #*&! about the citizens. It's why Lamont campaigned on legalization and truck only tolls yet months later he is abandoning legalization and pushing tolls for everyone. My personal rep is pro business, jobs, and wants to eliminate CT's ridiculous debt. But they are against legalization; a bill that would a)create a new industry b)create more taxable income for the state c)attract people from out of state. Politicians do not care about us. They claim to have banned vaping/cigs in an effort to 'promote public health' but I'd bet my left nut that this is for the publicity. Everyone knows cigs are bad, and vaping is for teen riff raff. This is an easy law for them to pass, and makes them look good. This law will have zero real impact except take away yet another freedom.

How about we start solving actual issues instead of blindly banning #*&! that will have no effect?


Edited by enwez (05/31/19 01:19 PM)
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#1766304 - 05/31/19 01:49 PM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: Mitch P.]
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goodpost Well said!!! applause

I should've been here yesterday?
I was...
And I didn't catch anything then either!!!

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#1766312 - 05/31/19 02:26 PM Re: Smoking, Vaping Ban Bill At Hammonasset, Other Parks Advances [Re: enwez]
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You're absolutely right. My first thought was "cool, I hate cigarettes". Then it occurred to me, why the hell are they even wasting time on this legislation? There are so many other pressing issues. Easy passage of a vote garnering law. Now its #*&! tolls. We already have a gas tax. Where's that money go?

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