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#615977 - 11/04/04 04:49 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Anonymous Unregistered	i also think you can rent epirbs from boat us or west marine....
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#615978 - 11/04/04 05:17 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Bob Bradley Member Registered: 11/18/03 Posts: 5316	Since I planned on taking my "new" boat offshore this past summer for the first time, I had my raft inspected. The previous owner had neglected this for about 7 or 8 seasons, so it cost me upwards of $1000. Not cheap, but money well spent in my estimation. I also purchased an ACR SATELLITE 2 406 CAT 1 EPIRB Model 2774. Having heard some questionable reviews of the GPS enabled epirbs, I elected not to go that route. I paid about $670 for that unit. All in all, I feel a lot better about having both onboard, but I am still wondering if I should go further next year. I'm considering having an additional epirb placed inside the raft when it is serviced in the spring. I also plan on installing a hydrostatic release for the raft, as it now must be deployed manually. I'm also wondering about the value/necessity of a SSB radio. Any thoughts on the approach? We're told not to judge all Muslims by the acts of a few "crazies," but apparently the acts of a few American "crazies" are enough to judge all Americans who own guns.
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#615979 - 11/04/04 05:27 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
swwind Member Registered: 06/10/03 Posts: 3357	For clarification of above 1. Indentify who will be in charge PRIOR to leaving the harbor . . NOT when it is time to abandon ship. Often there are disputes as the S*#t is hitting the fan. It is imparitive that the chain of command be fully understood prior to any type of crisis response. See my post above on breaking the fishing team into two teams. 2."keeping the raft tied to the boat" While the raft should obviously be deloyed prior to the boat sinking and must be secured to the boat, you should NEVER leave a boat that is still afloat. As the saying goes - never get in the raft unless you are stepping up to it. A great read on this topic is "Fasnet Force 10". The book recounts the events of the 1979 Fastnet Race when 15 lives were lost. In several cases in that horrible tragedy, sailors died in rafts only learn that the original boats were still afloat days latter. The worse case was the vessel "Gramalkin" - the crew left one man for dead on the boat and presumably got in the raft. In the end he was not dead - and today is the only survivor of the Gramalkin k4 - US Patent No: US D588,518 S "It is not necessary to change; survival is not mandatory" - Edward Deming Team Man Made Climate Change is real. "whats so funny about peace, love and understanding" - Elvis Costello John Huntsman December 2011 . . . . . "When we take a position that basically runs counter to what 98 out of 100 climate scientists from what the National Academy of Scientists said on what is causing climate change, and man’s contribution to it, I think we find ourselves on the wrong side of science"
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#615980 - 11/04/04 06:26 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Bob Bradley Member Registered: 11/18/03 Posts: 5316	Never say never. I disagree with the contention that one should never leave a boat until it sinks. Perhaps it is an old wives tale, and maybe someone could correct me, but having never had a boat sink out from underneath me, that's all I have to go on. I've heard that when the boat finally does sink, it can do so abruptly and somewhat violently, taking crew down with it, as it causes a downward flow of water as it sinks. I would also contend that one should abandon ship in the event of a fire that is beyond control. I think you just have to evaluate the conditions at hand, and make a decision on the spot. Clearly, it is not something to take lightly. We're told not to judge all Muslims by the acts of a few "crazies," but apparently the acts of a few American "crazies" are enough to judge all Americans who own guns.
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#615981 - 11/04/04 07:02 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
swwind Member Registered: 06/10/03 Posts: 3357	Bob - you are right - never say never. Each case demands a separate assesment. The point is that many boats are abandoned prematurely and this error plays out with amazing frequency. In a storm senario (much different than fire) a raft is not a "safe" place to be. Rafts tear, tumble, and are very dangerous places, they are a last resort. A partially flooded boat with broken windows and no power can be safer than a raft. That said your point is a good one - "you just have to evaluate the conditions at hand" Hopefully none of us will ever need to make those evaluations k4 - US Patent No: US D588,518 S "It is not necessary to change; survival is not mandatory" - Edward Deming Team Man Made Climate Change is real. "whats so funny about peace, love and understanding" - Elvis Costello John Huntsman December 2011 . . . . . "When we take a position that basically runs counter to what 98 out of 100 climate scientists from what the National Academy of Scientists said on what is causing climate change, and man’s contribution to it, I think we find ourselves on the wrong side of science"
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#615982 - 11/04/04 07:10 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Bob Bradley Member Registered: 11/18/03 Posts: 5316	Amen, brother. That raft is one insurance policy I hope I never have to cash in. We're told not to judge all Muslims by the acts of a few "crazies," but apparently the acts of a few American "crazies" are enough to judge all Americans who own guns.
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#615983 - 12/01/04 02:00 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Mahi Mahi Pirate in the blood. Fishing in the soul. Registered: 01/17/03 Posts: 1285 Loc: NYC/Norwalk/Mystic	When running at night, its a good idea to have some means to quickly find a crewman that accidently falls overboard. Most of the guys I fish with all wear some sort of floatsuit for the ride out (keep in mind we fish aboard an Intrepid CC so it can get a little wet and cool on the ride out) with either glow sticks or a water activated strobe attached to the suit. While there's no guarantee that the sticks or strobe will stay attached on impact, it's just an added "comfort" measure. "My only friends are pirates...that's just who I am" www.myspace.com/gotrumfishingteam http://www.tluvimages.com
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#615984 - 12/01/04 02:18 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
MermaidCT Member Registered: 06/02/03 Posts: 8452 Loc: SE CT	Take a tip from the yak guys and always have a whistle on you too. The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. Jacques Yves Cousteau
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#615985 - 12/01/04 02:23 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Mahi Mahi Pirate in the blood. Fishing in the soul. Registered: 01/17/03 Posts: 1285 Loc: NYC/Norwalk/Mystic	Excellent point Mermaid. We have them on our lifejackets-probably should have them on us at all times. "My only friends are pirates...that's just who I am" www.myspace.com/gotrumfishingteam http://www.tluvimages.com
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#615986 - 01/15/05 09:02 PM Re: ** Offshore Safety Tips **
Captbillb Member Registered: 08/28/02 Posts: 1868 Loc: Watch Hill, Islamorada, Deerfi...	U.S.C.G. certified lights (battery or lightstick) and 'sound making devices' are mandatory on all Class I life jackets for passenger carrying vessels. Have been forever. Bill http://www.billfishcharter.com/ http://www.pennreels.com/ http://www.mustad.no/ http://www.aftco.com/ http://www.candhlures.com/
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