buck I just edited when I said apprently they work for firstlight i said that because one of the guys gave my buddy a card after the fact like after they had come back toward us whent he police drove by.

he always said they owned the area which they didnt show proof of that and judging by the years and years of seeing people fish there I thought it was all bs

If as of this week this is true and no one is allowed to fish there, its a standing rule. It would also make sense to tell the near by baitshop.
Possibly put a sign up on their door so that no one goes over there.

maybe by the end of today there will be signs up that say no fishing.


Originally Posted By: Buck
Some thoughts:

--That is a dike that acts also as a dam. Ownership is most likely with First Light. Actually the ownership of Candlewood Lake and its properties is with a Canadian pension fund sold to them by First Light and the new owners hired First Light to manage the properties. So if First Light officials with proper credentials asked you to leave you should leave. But these guys on the road are likely not with First Light and if First Light wanted no one to fish from the dike it would be posted with heavy signage.
He did claim they (firstlight) owns it. We were more confused and didnt trust his word. One of the guys did give my buddy a card only after my buddy asked for one and it was the second time the guys came back to us (as the police drove by.)


--The police did not get involved because there is no signage there and there is a history of it being allowed for public access and no one with the correct identification presented themselves to the police other than through a phone call. There is a legal doctrine called Prescriptive Easement. This dike meets the definitions of Prescriptive Easement. Further, there is nothing to prove the guys who reported it were from First Light and the police officer probably had no historical knowledge of access and ownership.
Toward the end of the convo with the police one of the FL employees showed them some sort of ID. The officer did not know about the access of ownership. It was more of our word against theres. Since we could not get a hold of anyone from firstlight or deep and we didnt want to just waste time sitting there we did leave. The officers were basically there to try to resolve a dispute that in reality they couldnt.



--If the police were responding due to a possible bomb and then could determine you were only obviously just fishermen, then the police could arrest the First Light people for false reporting. Kind of like yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.
The FL or one of the guys with him for all I know some of the guys didnt work for FL told the officer as we were all standing there about being unsure what we had in our bags. What if the officer thought there was a legitament threat things could have gone a different way. If that was really a concern about people with backbacks.... come on.




--Most likely the guys on the road were not First Light employees. You could call First Light, ask for their security dept. and report the incident including the bomb comments and the police investigation and that this is harassment of a legal fishermen which is against state law. You could then find out the real story from First Light about access. If access is allowed, or First Light intends to look the other way and take a position of benign neglect on the issue, then if you are harassed again by anyone it is your turn to call Encon or the Danbury police and report the issue and file a complaint against them under the "hunter harassment" laws that also apply to legal fishermen.


--Most likely these guys belong to the private beach and live over there and don't like people from the outside coming there, fishing, maybe making noise, etc. so they harass them to leave. Assuming First Light has no problem with fishing from the dike, fishermen are protected in multiple ways to continue doing so including the Constitution's First Amendment dealing with the right to assemble as litigated in Leydon v. Town of Greenwich.
This would be a "starter kit" for taking a counter action against these guys.
At first I thought they were people who live near the beach and just didnt want us to fish the big roack that seperates the two areas. Tomorrow the plan is to contact who ever we can and go from there. Your post will help out a lot and as usual I apreciate the help and information.




We will be calling firstlight tomorrow, possibly deep and probably the local PD to see if they have a report for us. We did not give any names or make any statments on paper but, id like to know what they have for this instance.

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