KWK
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Seeing as how y,all live in a socialistic utopia adjacent to a communistic nirvana...you may or may not be aware of what is going on Va.its a hot mess.Bloomberg poured a pile of money in to influence elections,now its payback time.its horrifying.i,m not going to cover it,been done..Youtube in order of factual presentation,updates and # of tirades and rants.# 1 iraqveteran8888#2) gunsand gadgets#3) johnnyB(tn homeboy)#4)highimpactvlogs(rant and tirade prone but always logical,factual and extremely funny)#5)Cam.always has a way of getting great guest speakers just had the pres of the VCDL on.awsome guy.needless to say,Va is a touchstone,a test of sorts by bloomberg and all his little globalist physocapathic buddies.Va govenor" blackface northram" went so far as to make it illegal to bear arms on capitol grounds because of a rally on the 20th"Supposed intel" there may be violence....yea by planted instigators.what a mess.the wish list of anti 2a crap is unbelievable.all the usual garbage but this ones new" all indoor /outdoor gun ranges closed(basically) unless on state or federal property or 90% of users are military,federal or local law enforcement.and records of who,adress,weapons used,date and time are to be kept on file.now the political criminal who came up with that earned his pay.ATTA BOY.well anyway,patrinize these channels,subscribe,thumb up,helps keep them on.pardon my rant boys but this crap is happening right next door .Vigilance.
#1777430 - 01/18/2007:48 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
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Loc: TN
Yea,that was one point i made on" suposed intel" about potential issues.yea,ok,, these aholes are planting instigators in the rally and there will be tons of msm cameras everywhere ready to twist and pervert the narrative to their liking no doubt.they,re hiring people to start #*&! and make the majority of peaceful protestors look like animals....vcdl has called for 10,000 unarmed individuals for inside the fence(cage/ kill zone) and 50,000 armed individuals outside the fence....this is a potential new civil war match...none of these people want this but their hands have been forced.85% of the counties have declared themselves 2a sanctuaries.their sheriffs will NOT enforce a constitutional violation ( wich they and all the little twinkies in Richmond swore a oath to uphold).crazy fn rollin, in bloomberg money snowflakes...well funny...aparently WVa ,still active,albeit old and dusty,has it within their state constitution to annex any counties within VA.with votes yes on both sides,any Va county that wants to bail just needs to apply to WVA by august...far fetched,maybe...plausible and legal yes....it would be so cool to have the majority of land( and tax money ) just vanish overnight from the power mad physcopaths in Richmond....we are not dead yet.
#1777432 - 01/18/2008:09 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
...oh yea,i remember when clinton banned all the "scary evil black guns" for 10 years,then ct kept it in place...mass non compliance....oh yea forgot about all those "high capacity magazines " we were all supposed to disable or turn in to the state...oh crap...i still have them,and i bought 10 more since i moved....my bad sorry ct dont throw me in jail. coyote/wild hog death master.( built with pride by a GREAT American mnfctr. ,Ruger).
#1777443 - 01/19/2009:19 AM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
Don P
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Registered: 05/03/07
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Loc: CLINTON, CT
This is SCARY stuff:
KWK - “all indoor /outdoor gun ranges closed(basically) unless on state or federal property or 90% of users are military,federal or local law enforcement.and records of who,adress,weapons used,date and time are to be kept on file.”
KWK can you post where that language comes from?...proposal, article, etc...
#1777473 - 01/19/2008:26 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
I will have to do a bit of digging for the actual bill designation but its legit.it would make the range in the basement of the NRA headquarters in VA. Illegal....i,ll find it.
#1777475 - 01/19/2008:38 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
Don, it is house bill # 567.basically it will close all public indoor and outdoor ranges unless 90% of users are military,police or federal officers.they will be required to keep records,name,adress and firearm used.its #*&! registration....and the range needs to be on state owned,federal owned or leased...none of that fun stuff allowed on private land....like your own land.and God forbid you should train anyone how to use a firearm safely...that,ll be against the law as well.and forget about selling that old duck or deer gun to your neighbor or brother without going through a ffl...sorry you are now a instant felon.
#1777476 - 01/19/2008:57 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
What country do we live in ...i forget.watch tomorrow what happens on the Va capitol grounds .there will no doubt be false flag events attempted.i pray it goes peacefully.rumors of antifa and hired instigators are being spoken of.there will be msm cameras just drooling for shtf incidents.but the good guys will have thousands of cameras as well...we,ll see.it will be interesting to see how it plays out.the cops at the gate are already acting like nazis today.
If you study the Federal gun laws today you will see a lot of things we worry about are already law. Hand guns already go through an FFL and you take possession in your state of residency. If I buy a hand gun down here in Fl. I need to have the FFL ship to an FFL in Ct. And I have a Fl. CCP. To pick it up in Ct. I need a Ct. CCP. State laws are making private sales more restrictive. So some of the stuff Va. is trying to do has already been done but some it has not been done anywhere that I know of like closing the gun ranges. So it is time to challenge them. I am encouraged by the actions of the Va. Sheriffs Depts. The entire concept of the Sheriffs Depts. were to protect the people from the Govt. and others. This has been lost on them over the years but it appears that the original concept has re-emerged in Va. with this gun issue. The ultimate defense is to ignore the laws and tell the state to "stand down". We did that in Ct. after Sandy Hook and the draconian gun laws were imposed. When the January 1st cutoff to register or turn in the AR 15s that were owned by residents and still in the state passed by it appeared that only about 10,000 guns were registered with tens of thousands not registered but known to exist and where they existed was known. The Governor and the Hartford Journal called for the State Police to go and pick them up even if it required kicking in some doors. After a few days of jawboning the head of the State Police made a statement that the State Police had no interest or intent to go and pick up anyone's guns under any circumstance. End of discussion. But those gun owners are always at risk of a "one off" event that results in prosecution. It is one law at a time until they get them all. That is the strategy along with brain washing our children. In a way, the state house in Va. did us a favor by rattling the cage of the Va. sportsmen and women who almost all are Constitutionalists and Patriots.
So what is the missing link now? I think we have most of the Va. towns and counties on board where they have declared themselves to be a 2A sanctuary, along with the Sheriffs Dept. What the Va. National Guard is thinking is not known. Would they follow the Governor's orders to march on the people or would they stand down too. What the NG needs is something more visible and concrete to dwell on and that is a state-wide armed Civilian Constitutional Militia that is a formal organization with an organizational identity. It would be by Town, reporting into a County and then into Regions, then into a State Hq. It would truly be to uphold and protect, the Constitution of the U.S. (and the Va. Constitution), from all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC. It could work with the Sheriff's Dept. too if those groups can remember their roots. Now the Governor and the NG has something bigger to worry about whenever the NG mission is to trample on the Constitutional rights of the people. Then this can be replicated in every state. Now the Rights of the People will have fewer elected officials going after their rights.
#1777511 - 01/20/2003:15 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
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Crazy Ivan
Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 17933
Loc: New Milford, and Anywhere Salt...
So, you can walk around town with a tactical gun?
Forgive my ignorance, but If I walked or drove through an area and saw people with assault riffle I dont know what I would do..... Probably hide.
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We had this problem in New Fairfield where we have a semi-private gun range on town property. It is a club but it has to have mostly New Fairfield residents as members and it is open any time to the town police and the State Police. We can only shoot on Sundays from 10am to 12 noon. But some developments were built around the 200 acre town lot with the range and the first thing they did was complain about the noise even though it was for two hours a week. It went to a Town Meeting and the gun range was supported by a huge margin and the complaints stopped. We have no noise ordnance in New Fairfield.
#1777579 - 01/22/2012:48 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
The term "assault rifle" is a typical leftist nomenclature that stems from pure ignorance of guns( aka ,a tool) how they function and ultimate purpose.a civilian ar 15 style rifle does not and can not be modified to full auto just by dropping in a new lower.even a experienced gun smith will tell you its basically impossible.i think most antis are against the magazine capacities.what they dont understand is that .223 or 5.6 is not a particulary powerful round.my .270 deer rifle is way more powerful,velocity and penetration capabilities.to keep this short assault rifle is right up there with the incredibly overused and stupid term "gun violence".more people get killed every year from knives,baseball bats hammers and cars.
#1777580 - 01/22/2012:52 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
...yea,aparently open constitutional carry is still legal( for now) because a lot of non va residents were carrying side arms and long guns.not one incident.aparently the old phrase " a armed society is a polite society" is still true.
#1777582 - 01/22/2005:02 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: Buck]
bk
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Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 4171
Loc: Newtown
Originally Posted By: Buck
If you study the Federal gun laws today you will see a lot of things we worry about are already law. Hand guns already go through an FFL and you take possession in your state of residency. If I buy a hand gun down here in Fl. I need to have the FFL ship to an FFL in Ct. And I have a Fl. CCP. To pick it up in Ct. I need a Ct. CCP. State laws are making private sales more restrictive. So some of the stuff Va. is trying to do has already been done but some it has not been done anywhere that I know of like closing the gun ranges. So it is time to challenge them. I am encouraged by the actions of the Va. Sheriffs Depts. The entire concept of the Sheriffs Depts. were to protect the people from the Govt. and others. This has been lost on them over the years but it appears that the original concept has re-emerged in Va. with this gun issue. The ultimate defense is to ignore the laws and tell the state to "stand down". We did that in Ct. after Sandy Hook and the draconian gun laws were imposed. When the January 1st cutoff to register or turn in the AR 15s that were owned by residents and still in the state passed by it appeared that only about 10,000 guns were registered with tens of thousands not registered but known to exist and where they existed was known. The Governor and the Hartford Journal called for the State Police to go and pick them up even if it required kicking in some doors. After a few days of jawboning the head of the State Police made a statement that the State Police had no interest or intent to go and pick up anyone's guns under any circumstance. End of discussion. But those gun owners are always at risk of a "one off" event that results in prosecution. It is one law at a time until they get them all. That is the strategy along with brain washing our children. In a way, the state house in Va. did us a favor by rattling the cage of the Va. sportsmen and women who almost all are Constitutionalists and Patriots.
Sorry to dispute you Buck but in Ct any valid license permit holder is allowed to sell firearms including handguns. I recently sold a Smith and Wesson 357 Mag Model 66 to a guy with a valid CT permit. I am not an FFL holder. All that is necessary is to contact the CT Firearms and Safety fill out the proper forms and call to get a transfer number then mail the form in. It's not that bad. Not like the old days but going through an FFL in totally not needed.
Hi Bruce, I should have been more careful in distinguishing between buying through a licensed FFL gun store and the second option of a private sale. In the first few sentences I was referring a transaction where I buy a handgun down in Florida from an FFL gun store. In the second transaction a private transaction in Florida can go as you describe in your transaction in Ct. (even easier, there is no state approval required). The problem is that any transaction, FFL or private, is supposed to meet not only the state law in the transaction state but when involving a non-resident buyer (me, Ct.) the transaction is supposed to meet all of the laws and regulations of the buyer's state. This is a Federal law as I read it. When in Maine I also had a situation where the Ct. regulation issue was ignored. The sales person in the gun store said he could sell me any long gun and after background checks I could take it with me. I was looking at a rifle in 6.5 Creedmore but I did not buy it. Later the Federal regs indicated that the Maine seller should have checked the Ct. regs and asked for my Long Gun Certificate or Ct. CCP allowing me to buy long guns in Ct. Then he could have transferred ownership in Maine and I could have left with the gun. As it was, if I did the deal with his guidance I would have violated the Ct. laws. Any audit of the gun store by the state of Maine could have discovered this error and now I am exposed if they pass the info to the Ct. State Police. Transactions within a state by a state resident are fairly direct and easy to understand but by a non-resident buyer from a highly regulated state like Ct. it is a mine field. It demonstrates to me that having a Ct. CCP is virtually mandatory for any gun buying resident.
#1777939 - 01/30/2007:19 PM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
Well,this whole conversation is informative.but you are still talking about your God given right to buy,sell possess or use a firearm.the 2a just Reiterates a common sense fact.what part of " shall not be infringed" do these physycopathic control freaks dont get? The "i " part ,the "d" part.? There is a bill in place here in Tn for constitutional carry.we,ll see.... also some red flag crap that,ll never fly.kick the wrong dog on the wrong porch as the boys down hear say.we just say" that is a real good way to get shot".
I was at a huge flea market here in Florida this past week and some of the vendors had gun collections. So at one of them where they weren't too busy and they had rifles, shotguns and handguns, I stopped and said I was from out of state, Ct. to be exact, and pulled out my drivers license, which he looked at, and then my Fl. CCP card. When he saw the CCP card he picked it up, looked at it, looked at me, and said this is all I need, you can buy anything I have and take it with you. He said, I am not a dealer, this is not an FFL transaction, this is strictly a private sale and your Fl. CCP card is all I need. I did not buy anything but I thought the conversation was interesting.
#1778413 - 02/13/2010:12 AM
Re: Virginia Tyrants
[Re: KWK]
KWK
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 4606
Loc: TN
A new bill has been proposed in missippi,HB 753.basically it is proposing forming a 2a compact with 8 other states all drafting similar bills.tn,ky,La,oklahoma,georgia wva,cant rember the rest.it basically tells the fed no 2a infringements of any kind will be tolerated.no gun bans no magazine bans etc.also a interstate compact on gun and ammo sales and mnfctring.interesting read.Tn is already on it a similar bill has been submittedHJR0748. It as a reaffirmation of states rights.hmmm this all sounds familiar.
Virginia House Passes Bill To Award Electoral Votes To National Popular Vote Winner
Now the state’s Democrats want to cede Virginia’s power to decide who it wants to be president of the United States by giving the state’s electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote. The state House of Delegates voted on Tuesday to place Virginia in the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would cede participating states’ electoral votes to the national popular vote winner, regardless of who the people of Virginia voted for.
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