I have done about 30 birds in the past 5-6 years and it is all ways a crowd pleaser. Once you do it a couple of times you get the hang of it. To measure the amount of oil needed I put the bird in the pot when its still in the plastic bag, fill it with water to cover and mark it. One last piece of advice do not stuff the bird unless you want to see hot oily stuffing shooting 30 feet in the air. From what I hear.