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#1195348 - 03/24/10 07:38 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: AvalonAngler]
big mike 38 Offline

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i think the problem is the cormarands i seen these birds eat dozens of herring. there not even native birds. they came over on ships. they should allow us to hunt them. they also eat tons of flounder and eels

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#1195422 - 03/24/10 11:25 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: big mike 38]
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Double-crested cormorants are most certainly native.

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#1195545 - 03/25/10 03:27 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: AvalonAngler]
big mike 38 Offline

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native or not they still do a job on the herring

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#1195547 - 03/25/10 03:35 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: AvalonAngler]
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if it were the bass the herring would have been wiped out hundreds of years ago.commercial netting is my guess.
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#1195558 - 03/25/10 04:18 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: seeforellen]
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The commercial guys catching net fulls are not too blame ...... rolleyes

it's all the stripers and recreational fisherman that are the problem banghead

after 8 years of a recreational ban maybe it is time to switch sides and let us use a few while banning the commercial netters. Maybe even ban the stripers from eating them as well LOL
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#1195563 - 03/25/10 04:42 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: AvalonAngler]
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Originally Posted By: Valinn Ranelli
I do believe the bass are a problem. Last year very few of the bass I caught appeared well fed and I did not find a single preyfish in the stomach of a bass.


99.9938095% reduction in the measured population over the dam. If ever the folks at NMFS need to take a step a back and start connecting the dots from an eco-system perspective, IT IS NOW and it is this fishery

The slaughter will take place again this summer. If there was ever a fishery that needed an Emergency Closure it is the Gulf of Maine herring fishery. How this is getting under the radar at NMFS make me nuts.

Valinn - I think your observations confirms the sistuation.

I am disappointed in the DEP press release becuase (IMO) it should higlight the risk to the Stiped Bass population because of the herring population crash - not point to the Bass as a potential factor.

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#1195589 - 03/25/10 06:58 PM Re: Alewife/Blueback herring closure extended [Re: MikeG]
Conrad G. Offline

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Originally Posted By: Mike G
The commercial guys catching net fulls are not too blame ...... rolleyes

it's all the stripers and recreational fisherman that are the problem banghead

after 8 years of a recreational ban maybe it is time to switch sides and let us use a few while banning the commercial netters. Maybe even ban the stripers from eating them as well LOL


Ya, they think the mindless masses believe that bullsht...Mike big money wins again...What a joke!!!The mere fact that this is even a debatable issue is a joke...The problem is at sea!!!

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