Skip, these laws will be a nightmare for you and your team who could easily have to devote much of their time now to enforcing gun regulations. Anyway, some questions from me. --Buying out of state. This has been asked earlier but what if I buy my ammo at a gun dealer in Pa. when I am at deer camp and bring it into Ct. when I return home? --What if I do a gun transaction between a private seller and me in Pa. at deer camp having to do with a standard bolt action deer rifle, per existing Federal and Pa. law, that has no registration requirements in Ct. and then I bring it into Ct? --What if I buy a gun at an out of state dealer with an FFL who does a standard background check. Does this gun purchase require the dealer to send the gun to a Ct. FFL for registration, background checks and does this require me to have the long gun purchase certificate? --The Bill has a paragraph having to do with protection of the data bases for all of these registrations and certificate issuances. For instance, name and address of registration lists will not be published. But there is sharing. Sharing within the state is probably not an issue but sharing with Homeland Security at the Federal level where there are no limitations to the use of these data bases is highly problematic. Most Federal registries have very specific limitations on how long they can be kept such as NICS and the Brady Act but nothing exists protecting citizens from Homeland Security and the expansion of the Patriot Act. What is your understanding of our protections within these state registries and data bases? Is the state planning on sharing these registries and data bases with Homeland Security who is on record as labeling sportsmen, shooters, veterans and hunters as part of their "terrorist watch lists" whatever that means. Thanks Skip, George
#1489721 - 04/07/1301:51 PM
Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested
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the ruger 10/22 comes from the factory with a 10rd magazine. They have no pistol grip so should be fine.
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#1489938 - 04/08/1309:16 AM
Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested
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As posted earlier, the only thing we really do related to firearms is how they are used for hunting. The state police are responsible for managing this whole thing.
That being said, anything I post regarding the laws are my PERSONAL opinion based on what I've read in the law and my understanding of the laws.
The Ruger 10/22 should be exempt. It's a rimfire and only has a 10 round rotary magazine.
As far as 16 and 17 year olds hunting, until we hear differently we treat them the way we always have. As long as they have a license they are good to go.
George - I watched the debates in the house on CT-N the other night. One of the State Reps (it may have been Rep Minor) was asking a number of questions regarding the laws.
Questions were asked about purchasing long guns and ammunition out of state. The questions were answered by Rep Dargen who is one of the leading anti-gun proponents and his answer was that it would be legal to purchase a long gun or ammunition out of state and bring it back to CT. The long gun and ammunition permits that have been enacted are for purchase, not for possession. They are not like pistol permits where you need to have a valid permit to have the firearm or ammunition with you in public.
Connecticut law has no standing in another state. The permits are strictly for purchase in CT so if you don't purchase the long gun/ammo in CT you don't need the permit.
As far as protecting the database.....as long as Anonymous is out there I don't think any online database is truly secure. I don't know what the plan is regarding sharing the database with any other governmental agencies. That's a good question for a group like the ACLU.
Just got off the phone with Cabelas in Pennsylvannia - talked to a gentleman in the new gun area. He said the employees have a hot-line number to call with any firearm questions and he told me that even though the new law seems to state rimfire rifles only, they are not selling any military style rimfire rifles to CT residents. He told me he read the law changes and thought [like I did] that rimfire was not part of it, but when calling their hotline was told no.
Not sure if that's a corporate decision or a legal decision based on the new laws......
#1490035 - 04/08/1301:53 PM
Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested
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Jighead
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Why would even the dumbest criminal use a weapon or ammo that has his or her name associated with the purchase of it?
Never mind... I just figured it out...these new gun laws will only interfere with the law abiding citizens who only use guns safely and appropriately. They will not have any impact on sick individuals with no regard for human life until after they do something sick..... Then, they won't be able to buy ammo in CT. Problem Solved.