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#1488924 - 04/03/13 09:04 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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#1489050 - 04/04/13 12:12 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EGGNOG]
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ECON Police -

Question - Let's say I'm out duck hunting this coming season and I get stopped by an officer. Will that officer be checking for anything above and beyond what they would have checked for before this legislation has passed? I.E. - will they ask for my ammunition eligibility certificate? Will they be asking for my gun registration? Will they be asking for my long gun eligibility certificate?

Hunters will need to know how to legally protect themselves while hunting and while transporting guns and ammunition as it pertains to the new regs.
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#1489260 - 04/05/13 10:03 AM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: RedSeasFly]
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Originally Posted By: RedSeasFly
ECON Police -

Question - Let's say I'm out duck hunting this coming season and I get stopped by an officer. Will that officer be checking for anything above and beyond what they would have checked for before this legislation has passed? I.E. - will they ask for my ammunition eligibility certificate? Will they be asking for my gun registration? Will they be asking for my long gun eligibility certificate?

Hunters will need to know how to legally protect themselves while hunting and while transporting guns and ammunition as it pertains to the new regs.


The way I read it you need a permit to PURCHASE/TRANSFER long guns and ammo, not a permit to possess. I've read the law 4 times now and I can't find anything that requires a permit to carry or possess for anything other than a pistol or an assault weapon. So, unless you are selling your ammo of shotgun to someone in front of the officer we have no need to see anything other than your hunting license, duck stamps and HIP. I posted a sticky with a link to the English translation of the new law at the top of this section. Take a look at that.
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#1489301 - 04/05/13 12:33 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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Capt would it be legal to give a person in a duck blind a box of shells, if they do not have a pistol permit or ammunition cert, also could you give someone a gun to use.
thank I know you did not write the laws.

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#1489307 - 04/05/13 12:58 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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I can't find anything in the ammo part of the law that would prohibit it, all I can find talks about SALE, not gifting.

Sec. 14. (NEW) (Effective from passage) (a) For the purposes of this section and sections 15 to 17, inclusive, of this act, "ammunition" means a loaded cartridge, consisting of a primed case, propellant or projectile, designed for use in any firearm, "firearm" has the meaning provided in section 53a-3 of the general statutes, and "magazine" means any firearm magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device that accepts ammunition.

(b) No person, firm or corporation shall sell ammunition or an ammunition magazine to any person under eighteen years of age.

(c) On and after October 1, 2013, no person, firm or corporation shall sell ammunition or an ammunition magazine to any person unless such person holds a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver issued pursuant to subsection (b) of section 29-28 of the general statutes, as amended by this act, a valid permit to sell at retail a pistol or revolver issued pursuant to subsection (a) of section 29-28 of the general statutes, a valid eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver issued pursuant to section 29-36f of the general statutes, as amended by this act, or a valid long gun eligibility certificate issued pursuant to section 2 of this act and presents to the transferor such permit or certificate, or unless such person holds a valid ammunition certificate issued pursuant to section 15 of this act and presents to the transferor such certificate and such person's motor vehicle operator's license, passport or other valid form of identification issued by the federal government or a state or municipal government that contains such person's date of birth and photograph.

(d) The provisions of this section shall not apply to the sale, delivery or transfer of ammunition between (1) a federally-licensed firearm manufacturer and a federally-licensed firearm dealer, (2) a federally-licensed firearm importer and a federally-licensed firearm dealer, or (3) federally-licensed firearm dealers.

(e) Any person who violates any provision of this section shall be guilty of a class D felony.

Sec. 15. (NEW) (Effective July 1, 2013) (a) Any person who is eighteen years of age or older may request the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection to (1) conduct a national criminal history records check of such person, in accordance with the provisions of section 29-17a of the general statutes, using such person's name and date of birth only, and (2) issue an ammunition certificate to such person in accordance with the provisions of this section.

(b) After conducting the national criminal history records check of such person, the commissioner shall issue an ammunition certificate to such person unless the commissioner determines, based on a review of the results of such criminal history records check, that such person would be ineligible to be issued a long gun eligibility certificate under section 2 of this act, except that a conviction of a violation specified in subparagraph (B) of subdivision (2) of subsection (b) of section 2 of this act shall cause such person to be ineligible for an ammunition certificate only if such conviction was for a violation committed on or after the effective date of this section.

(c) Such ammunition certificate shall be of such form as the commissioner may prescribe, contain an identification number and the name, address and date of birth of the certificate holder and be signed by the certificate holder.

(d) A person holding an ammunition certificate issued by the commissioner shall notify the commissioner not later than two business days after any change of such person's address. The notification shall include both the old address and the new address of such person.

(e) Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 1-210 and 1-211 of the general statutes, the name and address of a person issued an ammunition certificate under this section shall be confidential and shall not be disclosed, except (1) such information may be disclosed to law enforcement officials acting in the performance of their duties, including, but not limited to, employees of the United States Probation Office acting in the performance of their duties, (2) the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection may disclose such information to the extent necessary to comply with a request made pursuant to section 14 of this act for verification that such certificate is still valid and has not been suspended or revoked, and (3) such information may be disclosed to the Commissioner of Mental Health and Addiction Services to carry out the provisions of subsection (c) of section 17a-500 of the general statutes, as amended by this act.

Sec. 16. (NEW) (Effective July 1, 2013) (a) The fee for each ammunition certificate originally issued under the provisions of this section shall be thirty-five dollars and for each renewal thereof thirty-five dollars, which fees shall be paid to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection and shall be in addition to the fee paid pursuant to subsection (b) of section 29-17a of the general statutes for conducting the national criminal history records check. Upon deposit of such fees in the General Fund, the fees shall be credited to the appropriation to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection to a separate nonlapsing account for the purposes of the issuance of ammunition certificates under section 15 of this act.

(b) An ammunition certificate originally issued under the provisions of section 15 of this act shall expire five years after the date it becomes effective and each renewal thereof shall expire five years after the expiration date of the certificate being renewed.

(c) The renewal fee shall apply for each renewal that is requested not earlier than thirty-one days before, and not later than thirty-one days after, the expiration date of the certificate being renewed.

(d) No fee or portion thereof paid under the provisions of this section for issuance or renewal of an ammunition certificate shall be refundable except if the certificate for which the fee or portion thereof was paid was not issued or renewed.

(e) An ammunition certificate issued pursuant to section 15 of this act shall be valid for a period of ninety days from the expiration date, except this provision shall not apply to any certificate which has been revoked or for which revocation is pending, pursuant to section 17 of this act.

Sec. 17. (NEW) (Effective July 1, 2013) (a) An ammunition certificate shall be revoked by the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection upon the occurrence of any event which would have disqualified the holder from being issued the certificate pursuant to section 15 of this act.

(b) Upon the revocation of any ammunition certificate, the person whose certificate is revoked shall be notified, in writing, and such certificate shall be forthwith delivered to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection. Any person who fails to surrender such certificate within five days of notification, in writing, of revocation thereof shall be guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
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#1489313 - 04/05/13 01:30 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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I guess I should wait until the dust settles a bit but I'm just wondering how this is going to affect those who do their own reloading? I image these supplies will also fall towards obtaining a ammunition certificate as well.
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#1489319 - 04/05/13 01:43 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: DEN]
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I guess I should wait until the dust settles a bit but I'm just wondering how this is going to affect those who do their own reloading? I image these supplies will also fall towards obtaining a ammunition certificate as well.


Shhhhhhhh! There is no mention of or prohibition related to reloading in the laws. Ammunition is specifically defined.

Sec. 14. (NEW) (Effective from passage) (a) For the purposes of this section and sections 15 to 17, inclusive, of this act, "ammunition" means a loaded cartridge, consisting of a primed case, propellant or projectile, designed for use in any firearm, "firearm" has the meaning provided in section 53a-3 of the general statutes, and "magazine" means any firearm magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device that accepts ammunition.
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#1489320 - 04/05/13 01:47 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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#1489358 - 04/05/13 05:10 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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Sorry for all the questions, is it legal to loan a person a gun to hunt?
and there is nothing about buying out of state and bring ammo into the state. Thanks Scott

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#1489365 - 04/05/13 05:55 PM Re: Proposed gun laws in case anyone is interested [Re: EnCon Police]
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Capt. thank you for posting this.. is there a specfic list of the banned Semiauto rifles (by name) tried to find a Ruger 10-22 today and EVERY shop pulled all there semiauto rifles and Handguns holding more than 10 rounds.. mostly because they don't really know what is legal and what is not, and when it takes affect.. I tried to read it.. but it gave me a headache and made my eyes BLEED!!!


Edited by hrdwtr24 (04/05/13 05:59 PM)
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