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#1548311 - 12/18/13 12:20 PM Re: felony question [Re: KillTaker]
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Originally Posted By: KillTaker
Are air rifles considered firearms in this respect? I know they are subject to the 500 ft. rule.


Educate myself...


Sec. 53a-3. Definitions. Except where different meanings are expressly specified, the following terms have the following meanings when used in this title:

(19) "Firearm" means any sawed-off shotgun, machine gun, rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or other weapon, whether loaded or unloaded from which a shot may be discharged;
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#1548354 - 12/18/13 04:56 PM Re: felony question [Re: EnCon Police]
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So under that definition my Ramset constitutes a firearm; that is sorta scary. Guess we will be raising our rates again real soon.

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#1548395 - 12/18/13 07:18 PM Re: felony question [Re: SouthBound]
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damn. GAMO guilty of slaughtering burrowing chipmunks fromt he garage and deck.........better than a lawsuit from a golfer with a broken kankle............ :)Pellet guns .....really???? eek

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#1548396 - 12/18/13 07:20 PM Re: felony question [Re: SouthBound]
chris med Offline

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who'd a thunk.............My sister is being stalked by yotes 40' off her deck.they just killed her cat.......... hell I had them sniffin my garage door per paw prints..........

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Contact Capt Mike Marro
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As if the colassal middle finger hasn't been jammed up our asses far enough, the NMFS and ASMFC carry on with their daily masterpieces of saving species in peril..........We as recreational anglers serve thanks for all the fine "work"sick you do........
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#1548458 - 12/18/13 09:48 PM Re: felony question [Re: chris med]
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Originally Posted By: chris med
who'd a thunk.............My sister is being stalked by yotes 40' off her deck.they just killed her cat.......... hell I had them sniffin my garage door per paw prints..........



waaaaaaaah!!!! cry2
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#1548538 - 12/19/13 10:32 AM Re: felony question [Re: SouthBound]
chris med Offline

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Loc: East Lyme
hey choot em or lose em........

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TEAM SERIOUSFISHING
TEAM RUMSWIZLER
TEAM RED NECK CAMPER TOURS
TEAM "NO GUN ZONE" facepalm
TEAM PANAMA
TEAM GEPSIKCEHEHTEREHW
TEAM Swizzle

www.joinrfa.com
Contact Capt Mike Marro
Bluefin Charters, Clinton Ct. 203-245-7742
www.bluefincharters.com
As if the colassal middle finger hasn't been jammed up our asses far enough, the NMFS and ASMFC carry on with their daily masterpieces of saving species in peril..........We as recreational anglers serve thanks for all the fine "work"sick you do........
Fishin Factory III
Middletown Ct
860-344-9139
www.fishinfactory3.com
www.jigheadlures.com
www.castlebaits.com





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#1548557 - 12/19/13 11:25 AM Re: felony question [Re: Paul D.]
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Originally Posted By: Paul D.
So under that definition my Ramset constitutes a firearm; that is sorta scary. Guess we will be raising our rates again real soon.


Ramset is not a weapon it's a tool, unless you purposely point it at someone to commit an assault.
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#1548584 - 12/19/13 01:34 PM Re: felony question [Re: EnCon Police]
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I agree with ya, but it would seem that there are some folks out there that have a lot of trouble telling a gun from a tool.

They put Bernard Gets (sp?) away for carrying a screw diver in the subway and that was long before any of this terrorist and do gooder feel good legislation came out.

Seriously though, I seem to be having trouble finding out what regulations apply to my "tools" .
Some do take a cartridge and use an explosion to fire a projectile.
Ramset, nail " gun" , Pasload. How long till these things are "registered" or other wise controlled.
Can I be charged with having a "tool" in my work vehicle during with other tools during a routine stop? It is sorta scary to me the direction peoples perceptions are headed.

Mark my words we are within 6 months of now we will hear of a workmen being shot or arrested by authorities because some " concerned citizen" heard the sound of "gun shots" in a neighboring room or building. It will turn out he was just doing his job, but the new make every loud noise a national emergency policy will surely backfire.


Edited by Paul D. (12/19/13 01:36 PM)

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#1548587 - 12/19/13 01:39 PM Re: felony question [Re: SouthBound]
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Interesting question Paul - perhaps I should stock up on all the nails and cartridges I need now before it happens.....
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#1548601 - 12/19/13 02:22 PM Re: felony question [Re: Paul D.]
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Originally Posted By: Paul D.
I agree with ya, but it would seem that there are some folks out there that have a lot of trouble telling a gun from a tool.

They put Bernard Gets (sp?) away for carrying a screw diver in the subway and that was long before any of this terrorist and do gooder feel good legislation came out.

Seriously though, I seem to be having trouble finding out what regulations apply to my "tools" .
Some do take a cartridge and use an explosion to fire a projectile.
Ramset, nail " gun" , Pasload. How long till these things are "registered" or other wise controlled.
Can I be charged with having a "tool" in my work vehicle during with other tools during a routine stop? It is sorta scary to me the direction peoples perceptions are headed.

Mark my words we are within 6 months of now we will hear of a workmen being shot or arrested by authorities because some " concerned citizen" heard the sound of "gun shots" in a neighboring room or building. It will turn out he was just doing his job, but the new make every loud noise a national emergency policy will surely backfire.


The technical answer to your question is "maybe".

A screwdriver is a tool until someone uses it to pry open a door, then it becomes a "burglary tool". If you are a contractor with a truck load of tools and equipment that happens to include a Ramset, then the Ramset is a tool. It is not designed as a weapon or to fire a bullet....but if you held one up against someone and pulled the trigger it would leave a mark...or hole. If someone takes a Ramset and goes into the local QuikEMart and points it at the guy behind the counter in a robbery, then it's a weapon. You can carry things to an extreme as to what is and is not a weapon. A rock can be considered a weapon, it's all in how it's used.

Obviously a firearm is a weapon as it is purposely designed to fire a projectile (bullet). A Ramset gun is designed to use a blank cartridge as a gas propellent to drive a nail into concrete or steel so it would be a stretch to really consider it a weapon....unless you misuse it. I have a cordless nail gun and I know when I'm firing a lot of nails one after the other it can sound like a semi-auto pistol going off so I know what you mean about people mistaking the noise and hitting the panic button.
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