#1567496 - 03/25/1410:12 AM
Re: Hunting near someone baiting
[Re: deep callin]
EnCon Police Moderator
Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 3899
If the bait pile is within range it can be considered hunting over bait. My suggestion is that if you have permission to hunt somewhere on a small block of property and can observe bait on the adjacent property, give us a call. If it's illegal for you to hunt over bait it's going to be illegal for someone on that property too. Our officers can investigate and deal with the baiting issue on that property and it will let the officer know that you are trying to do the right thing and hunt legally.
In my case a woman is feeding the deer and views them as her pets, I stop hunting the area because I did want the drama. It turn a good spot into a circus, if she saw my truck she would walk her dog in the woods to protect her deer.
I don't understand. If there are no laws in CT prohibiting feeding wildlife why is it the right thing for Four Ten to stop hunting a good spot. Why does she have "priority" over what Four Ten was doing. If she is feeding the deer (not illegal) and no feeder and he harvests a deer because the deer like the property due to being fed whats the issue. Someone who sees wildlife as their pets has priority over a hunter who sees wildlife as game??
With all due respect to EnCon your response makes me feel like the hunters are just lower and lower on the totem pole of society. In most situations we appear to be viewed and treated as guilty until proven innocent. We all need to be careful and pussy foot around the non-hunters so as to not upset them. Its ok for them to upset us and we constantly need to be the guarded ones almost as if we are doing something wrong because of society's view of someone in camo legally harvesting game. And no I"m not advocating starting something intentionally with someone in the woods but if I am hunting a piece of property legally and someone else has permission to walk the property and wants to feed the animals I should defer to the person feeding the animals? What happened to my rights? I really don't understand.
Maybe I've taken your (EnCons) response out of context but I would appreciate an explanation or clarification.
Poppi I am lucky to have a lot of land to hunt, this piece is 26 acres, I have hunted it for over ten years she built her home forty feet from the property line and views the woods as common property there is state forest and town land near by but she has to cross the land I hunt to get to the state forest. The property owner has not given her permission and also does not want the drama. I agree with you but this was not a fight I was interested in having.
#1567750 - 03/26/1409:10 AM
Re: Hunting near someone baiting
[Re: deep callin]
EnCon Police Moderator
Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 3899
I know nobody on this site would do it, but there are hunters out there who are not ethical, who will figure they can get away with baiting by putting bait on adjacent property and set up their firing lanes to target deer/turkey that are going to move towards the bait across the property they have permission for. When we catch them they all say the same thing....they didn't put the bait there and they didn't know it was there. I've let people in on a little known secret that cops know......people lie to us all the time. (That doesn't include anyone on this site...all CTF members are 100% ethical all the time and would never lie to us.) So, if we tend to take a hard line on things or tend not to believe people a lot of the time when they tell us things, like they didn't know the bait was there, it's based on past history and experience.
It all comes down to you knowing the bait is there. The OP was asking about a small parcel of land. The bait may not be on the property being hunted but if the bait is close enough to the property so that it can be seen and is within range, then a case could be made for hunting over bait. I'm just trying to err on the side of caution as I don't want to seen anyone get jammed up over something like this. We don't tell our officers when they should or shouldn't make arrests. That's up to them based on what they see or find in the field. I would be willing to bet that if you were on a 2 acre piece of land and could see bait on an adjoining piece that was within range, you would get arrested. If you want to hunt in an area adjacent to what amounts to bait which even though it's not on the property that you are hunting can draw deer or turkey in, go ahead, it's on you. If you don't know the bait is there and you can't see it from where you are hunting or it's so far away that it's not in range, then it's not an issue.
As far as someone being on the property you are hunting walking their dog or feeding wildlife on that property, if the property owner doesn't have a problem with it or doesn't want to deal with it then you're stuck.
Sec. 26-66-12. Wild Turkey Seasons, Bag Limits, Firearms, Ammunition, Archery Equipment, Methods, Permits, Tags and Reporting(c) Method of take (3) No person shall take or attempt to take any wild turkey with the aid of real or artificial bait; over any baited area; with the use of electronic amplified turkey calling device or live decoy.
Sec. 26-82. Killing of deer regulated..... No person shall make, set or use any trap, snare, salt lick, bait or other device for the purpose of taking, injuring or killing any deer, except that deer may be taken over an attractant in areas designated by the commissioner. For the purposes of this section, an attractant means any natural or artificial substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed or scattered that is used to attract, entice or lure deer to a specific location including, but not limited to, salt, chemicals or minerals, including their residues or any natural or artificial food, hay, grain, fruit or nuts.
Jighead
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What Encon said is pretty logical. If you can see it from your stand or it's obvious enough...a hunter is probably aware of it and trying to take advantage of it. "Within range" is a little vague...especially for a bowhunter (not that I want it defined)
I also can't agree more with this quote.....
Originally Posted By: poppi57
In most situations we appear to be viewed and treated as guilty until proven innocent. We all need to be careful and pussy foot around the non-hunters so as to not upset them. Its ok for them to upset us and we constantly need to be the guarded ones almost as if we are doing something wrong because of society's view of someone in camo legally harvesting game.
We are the "Pussy Foot" State when it comes to hunting. I've been around the country outside of CT and its the non-hunters that need to keep their anti-hunting feelings to themselves.
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