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#1275531 - 12/12/10 09:15 AM Legislator makes a mistake
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http://www.wfsb.com/family/26096753/detail.html, in some States if you report a incident the fine and or penalty reduced. When I was living in Pa, a friend saw a legal deer during season and shot, the bullet went through the deer and killed another one that was behind his intended deer. Immediately we called it in and the local Game Warden responded. He investigated the incident and gave my friend a fine that was half of the normal amount. Also the Game Warden wrote it up so no loss of hunting privileges. At the time I thought any fine was unwarranted and sort of still do. Also we were not allowed to retain the second deer because it was our actions that caused the deers death
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#1275569 - 12/12/10 12:46 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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polition lock up threw key away.

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#1275620 - 12/12/10 03:23 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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2 important aspects of the story,one this legislator has written game regs in the past and also friends with law enforcement,2nd fact is when he realized he made a mistake he took responsibility for his mistake. Taking those two things into consideration I would cut the guy some slack Will
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#1275677 - 12/12/10 06:46 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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If you have written game laws or any laws for that matter dont you think you would know them. Only credit iI give him hes a hunter.

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#1275685 - 12/12/10 07:21 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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I'm not inclined to cut the guy much slack either .
First , he shot a doe that wasn't the most impressive Piebald to begin with....
http://mcalesternews.com/archive/x622286557

Not a real problem with that , but then he runs to the local Newspaper babbling about it....
http://mcalesternews.com/sports/x1199044853/Rare-piebald-deer-dropped

Then , when he's told that he broke a hunting regulation , he goes off as a typical politician .
Yammering about how he may have "helped his fellow hunters who may not have known either"....
http://mcalesternews.com/local/x1312702792/Trophy-deer-earns-fine-for-McAlester-state-rep

Then to top it off , the regulation is on the "General Regulations" page of the Oklahoma Wildlife Department .
And it specifically states PIEBALD .
http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/regs/deerregs.htm

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#1275715 - 12/12/10 09:26 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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The way I see it is, the law is the law. If he saw the doe standing behind the buck, and he probably should have, he should have never taken the shot. Most hunters know that the projectile passes right through the animal, and still has enough energy to kill beyond the intended target.

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#1275745 - 12/12/10 11:44 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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Just thought I would add a little more. To me the "mistake rule" in Pennsylvania is a joke. They say if you accidentally shoot a doe
by "mistake" and explain your story to a CO he can fine you or charge $25.00 and you keep the deer. If you shoot a buck with only two points on a side you have to explain your "mistake" again. As far as I'm concerned it's all BS! In deer hunting there is no place for a "mistake". Either the deer was a doe or the buck did not have enough required points. It's black and white, plain and simple. Do away with the ridiculous law!

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#1275837 - 12/13/10 10:13 AM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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We are all human and can make a mistake, to me having the ability to admit to making the mistake and receiving a lessor penalty a good idea. Myself I saw some regs while in Pa I had issues with, for example when they started black bear seasons way back in the 70es a legal bear had to have 3 inch canine teeth. It was explained to me that hunters in the field have great optics on their rifles that it should not be a problem.WTF,I'm going to check out dentals before taking the shot,hhhhmmmmm In fact there was one bear shot that went over 400lbs that did not have canines, field biologists claimed it was some kind of freak.
On a side note, I have never had a problem with a Officer in the field. Many dealings with Officers from the Game Commission , Fish Commission and also the Rangers indifferent Parks I utilized. I have always found the uniformed Officers I came across to be extremely professional and courteous to the public.
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#1275939 - 12/13/10 02:07 PM Re: Legislator makes a mistake [Re: edaves]
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I have met a warden to be anything other than professional. Thats really not the point. This guy made up all sorts of game laws. What do they teach you in your hunters safety classes? Know what your tagrget is and what is beyound it? Suposed it was a house or a hiker behind the deer? I know it wasnt thank god that it was a deer. There are no excuses. Rounds are going faster further and more accurate. Plan and simple if I was a judge I would would have threwn the book at him. Sorry just the way I see it.

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