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#1624183 - 03/14/1507:48 AM
Re: New Regs question
[Re: swwind]
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Interesting, but some odd stats. Can't seem to get the graphs to copy, but Fig. 5 Relative Abundance does not seem to at all correlate with Fig.6 Commercial Landings. The crash in 96 was sharp and does not match up to landing either so there has to be some other factors involved.
I'm still leaning towards the larger year classes of the early 90s and a predation scenario way out of balance.
Interesting, but some odd stats. Can't seem to get the graphs to copy, but Fig. 5 Relative Abundance does not seem to at all correlate with Fig.6 Commercial Landings. The crash in 96 was sharp and does not match up to landing either so there has to be some other factors involved.
I'm still leaning towards the larger year classes of the early 90s and a predation scenario way out of balance.
The more I think about it - we are both probably right
If you look at the landings, by the mid 70's the big crash had started. But it is also clear that once the stocks were already much lower, the abundant Striped Bass were just hammering the population too. Perhaps that is what took the stock from in trouble to situation critical.
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#1624457 - 03/15/1511:15 PM
Re: New Regs question
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Paul D.
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Definitely a lot of good data that someone versed in it should put together and go over. Some of the lags and peaks could just be due to the method of data gathering. Now that the bass numbers are supposedly down lets' see if there is a short term change in returns.
And . . . . I think 2015 will mark the kick in of new mid water regs to limit harvest. I recall reading something about that late last year.
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#1624961 - 03/18/1506:48 PM
Re: New Regs question
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Mike, I don't know about the shad regulation but the herring ban is still in effect so you cannot use them. My buddy emailed DEEP and that was their response.
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