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#667891 - 03/20/06 05:06 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
MikeG Offline

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Registered: 01/20/02
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Seems the sytate is listning to us..........but instead of less closed seasons they want us to have more closed seasons \:o \:o \:o

quote from Dep announcement :

[QUOTE] There will be a summer closed season for trout on East Twin, Highland, and Crystal Lakes, including no use of downriggers or leadcore line. [ /QUOTE]
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#667892 - 03/20/06 06:30 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
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Registered: 05/17/05
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Loc: Fort Myers, FL
Still gotta agree with Catch 22...

Living the life down in FL!! smile1
But I miss everything I left behind in New England BAD!
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#667893 - 03/20/06 06:41 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
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Great points Catch 22, I am with you in your stance

Living the life down in FL!! smile1
But I miss everything I left behind in New England BAD!
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#667894 - 03/20/06 07:42 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
Don D Online   content

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Registered: 01/03/02
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Loc: Bristol, CT
I still like opening day.Period. What makes you think the state would stockm any different than they do now? That would mean more time put in not less. I have an even better idea, do away with trout stocking all together. Seeing that as Mike says 60% of the trout are caught in the first two weeks.(which I think is a bunch of bull) I catch trout all year. So does any one who puts in the time. Give the yahoos their two weeks. Didn't you ever hear the old saying"10% of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish"?

If there are fish to catch. I'll be there to my end.
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#667895 - 03/20/06 11:52 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
Keith G Offline

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Registered: 05/22/03
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Loc: Suffield, CT
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Seeing that as Mike says 60% of the trout are caught in the first two weeks.(which I think is a bunch of bull) I catch trout all year. So does any one who puts in the time. Give the yahoos their two weeks. Didn't you ever hear the old saying"10% of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish"?
Considering most hatchery trout are borderlne suicidal when first dropped in I'd buy off on the 60% number. They also tend to stay schooled up unless we get a good rain to wash them about. Don't forget there are supplemental stockings a few weeks after opening day as well. Naturally and logically if you are willing to put in the work and go to some unpressured areas you will find fish. In fact that is generally what I do as I prefer not to fish shoulder to shoulder.

I might be incorrect but I am never wrong!!

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#667896 - 03/21/06 09:16 AM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
MikeG Offline

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Seems this whole topic is a moot point with the DEP creating MORE closed seasons instead of less \:o
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#667897 - 03/22/06 01:31 AM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
Markus Offline
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Registered: 04/14/04
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Loc: East Hampton, CT
It seems many people have danced around one key point which should be added to the discussion: Does the DEP have a responsibility to provide Opening Day?

The DEP is a provider of services for the taxpayers of Connecticut, so can they alter Opening Day that drastically that it would alienate such a large number of the people that used to partake in the event in the past? I'm not sure.
Further, we are talking about two kinds of fisheries a "put and take" fishery (current opening day scheme) verses a more stable/natural fishery (TMAs, no opening day scheme, etc) each type is aimed at different styles of fishing. I think the DEP is trying to walk a fine line and provide for both at this point the best they can – to my question above about whom the DEP has responsibilities to serve.

All in all I think Opening Day is too much of an icon – there is a lot of inertia there get moving and it would be very tough. A very strong motivation would be needed to get it done. A smaller Opening Day issue is day light savings time, I assumed 6AM was picked because that is when sunrise is (5:42am to be exact), however in 2007 it changes to the 2nd Sunday of March(see Energy Policy Act of 2005) putting sunrise around 5:10ish on the third Saturday in April.


Personally, I think the put and take fishery is an arms race, they stock more and more people pull fish out, the whole thing is very expensive. They drop trout in every little piece of water that can support trout until Memorial Day, even if the stream will dry up in August.
Instead if the stockings were focused on water that had a real chance at sustaining trout over a whole year that would mean a lot less work/cost (and bodies of water that are stocked) ideally the goal would be get the trout to reproduce naturally on their own and become less dependant on stockings. This fishery would be a more low key one, requiring more habitat protection (for spawning) than direct interaction (via stocking), but it would service less people - typically not the people who buy a fishing license for 1 day a year.
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#667898 - 03/22/06 02:45 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
Greenglo Bob Offline

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Registered: 01/07/02
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Loc: New Preston
If these lake closures come to reality we best fight for broodstock Salmon to be placed in the lakes as Mass. does. At least share the fish with the lakes Although most Salmon get washed to the Sound, poached or go belly up in low summer warm waters.

He who dies with the most toys wins!!!
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#667899 - 03/22/06 03:37 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
seeforellen Offline

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Registered: 07/09/03
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why do people need an opening day for an exscuse to get together with others when if there was no closed season you could do it all year.i dont get peoples logic sometimes?
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#667900 - 03/22/06 04:36 PM Re: Abolish Opening day of Trout season
Keith G Offline

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Loc: Suffield, CT
You summed up my thoughts exactly Seeforellen.

I might be incorrect but I am never wrong!!

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