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Registered: 03/01/04
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We just got this - it was finally codified.
Sec. 26-31c. Hunting or fishing guide services. Registration. Fee. Exception. Limit on customers in vessel. Regulations. Fine. (a) No person shall conduct hunting or fishing guide services in this state unless such person registers with the Department of Energy and Environmental Protection. Such registration shall be made on a form prescribed by the Commissioner of Energy and Environmental Protection provided such form shall require the listing of such registrant's: (1) Name, (2) residential address, (3) business address, (4) business telephone number, and (5) services offered. The fee for such registration shall be one hundred dollars. Each such registration shall be nontransferable and shall expire on the last day of December next following the date of issuance. For the purposes of this section, "hunting or fishing guide services" means aiding, assisting or instructing any person in the taking of fish or wildlife while in the fields, forests or on the waters of the state in exchange for any form of remuneration. No person shall operate a vessel for the purpose of providing hunting or fishing guide services on navigable waters of the state unless such person has registered with the department as a hunting or fishing guide services provider and holds a current passenger-for-hire license issued by the United States Coast Guard.
(b) The provisions of subsection (a) of this section shall not apply to any user, operator or crew of any vessel registered as a charter boat, party boat or head boat in accordance with the provisions of section 26-142a.
(c) Any person who provides fishing guide services that entail the use of a vessel while taking or landing marine species shall not have more than two customers in such vessel at any given time.
(d) The Commissioner of Energy and Environmental Protection may adopt regulations, in accordance with the provisions of chapter 54, to implement the provisions of this section.
(e) Any person who violates the provisions of this section shall have committed an infraction and be fined not more than ninety dollars.
#1613433 - 01/05/1512:22 PM
Re: New guide law
[Re: BLUECHIP]
Tieg
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Registered: 01/30/04
Posts: 1513
Loc: SE CT
Originally Posted By: BLUECHIP
Originally Posted By: EnCon Police
(e) Any person who violates the provisions of this section shall have committed an infraction and be fined not more than ninety dollars.
Soooo the Fee is 100 dollars... but if you don't pay it... the fine is $90.
seems like a 10 dollars savings.
Get caught 6 times? $540 although you would probably get your right/privilege to fish/hunt revoked before it got that bad.
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#1613601 - 01/06/1509:08 AM
Re: New guide law
[Re: EnCon Police]
Jighead
I love re-re-opening day
Registered: 04/05/02
Posts: 11226
Originally Posted By: EnCon Police
For the purposes of this section, "hunting or fishing guide services" means aiding, assisting or instructing any person in the taking of fish or wildlife while in the fields, forests or on the waters of the state in exchange for any form of remuneration.
If you invite someone on your boat....you are aiding and assisting before you even wet a line, give any advice at all...and you are also instructing. If he gives you some gas money, brings sandwiches or even buys the bait....that's remuneration.
- how gray can a law be ?????
A law everyone who takes someone else out fishing will be in violation of, while at the same time, nearly impossible to prove/enforce anyway. Unless the guy writes a check that says "fishing charter" on the memo line.
#1613608 - 01/06/1509:27 AM
Re: New guide law
[Re: Jighead]
EnCon Police Moderator
Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 3899
Originally Posted By: Jighead
Originally Posted By: EnCon Police
For the purposes of this section, "hunting or fishing guide services" means aiding, assisting or instructing any person in the taking of fish or wildlife while in the fields, forests or on the waters of the state in exchange for any form of remuneration.
If you invite someone on your boat....you are aiding and assisting before you even wet a line, give any advice at all...and you are also instructing. If he gives you some gas money, brings sandwiches or even buys the bait....that's remuneration.
- how gray can a law be ?????
A law everyone who takes someone else out fishing will be in violation of, while at the same time, nearly impossible to prove/enforce anyway. Unless the guy writes a check that says "fishing charter" on the memo line.
You are not acting as a guide, you are acting as a mentor. The difference is a guide gets paid - they do it for money - a mentor does it for free for the love of the sport and for the desire to pass on skills and knowledge to new hunters or anglers.
Trying to say that if someone chips in for gas or brings sandwiches makes them a paying customer doesn't hold true any more than using that logic if you carpool somewhere with a bunch of friends who chip in for gas or buy your lunch that you are running a taxi or limo service.
#1613623 - 01/06/1511:01 AM
Re: New guide law
[Re: EnCon Police]
danny k
The Good Life
Registered: 02/14/03
Posts: 2565
Loc: Port Huron Michigan
I did it for a while on the Farmington for $180.00 a day per person or $250.00 for two. Advertized on ebay the prior fall they payed a deposit with paypal and payed the rest at the end of the day. I had 5 customers the May before I left. It was pretty fun, I had one disabled Vietnam Vet and his Wife who I put on the church pool for two days from 5am til 11am and they had a blast. They caught a dozen rainbows and browns on mealies each. Then took him and his wife to that antiques place on rt44 which he loved. They drove all over the country buying and selling antiques like on American Pickers.
St. Clair River. Port Huron, MI. #1 Prolific Fishery in North America Bar None!
#1620450 - 02/15/1509:46 AM
Re: New guide law
[Re: EnCon Police]
Fishhedz
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 1052
Loc: Central Ct.
I spoke to a Coast Guard commander yesterday and he explained the "guiding from a vessel" law.
If you plan to be a payed, full-blown guiding service you must conform to the law.
A six-pack license will cover you and you get a lovely drug test every 2 years.
Got into it with him as I mentioned our awesome game dinner and the hunts I offer for DONATION. Boy did his panties get in a knot! He said any if any type of payment is involved it might be considered lawless. Really? Come on man! Kind of sh!tty if you ask me.
It's all about liability and money. I'm liable and the government wants more money.
How about I don't offer any hunts anymore at our game dinner? And god forbid any of you offering to take someone fishing on your vessel!
#1620476 - 02/15/1512:59 PM
Re: New guide law
[Re: EnCon Police]
MikeG
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Registered: 01/20/02
Posts: 13088
Loc: NW CT
The state is just grabbing another $100 where they can and does not have anyone's best interest in mind.Nothing is accomplished with this law other than it's getting money for doing and providing nothing to the people of CT in return.