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#1695670 - 10/09/16 10:54 AM Dragging west of Middle Grounds
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Is it legal for a vessel to drag west of Middle Grounds (Stratford Shoal)?


Edited by steve/swct (10/14/16 12:17 AM)
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#1696526 - 10/17/16 07:37 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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Appendix II: Offshore Trawl Line The Regulations of Connecticut State Agencies provide that no person shall use a vessel greater than 26 feet in length to trawl in any waters north of a line beginning at the southerly tip of the Byram River breakwater to buoy N2 which is two-tenths of a nautical mile southwest of Great Captain Island to buoy N34, which is one-half nautical mile south of Greenwich Point in Greenwich to buoy R32, which is eighttenths of a nautical mile south of Shippan Point in Stamford to buoy R24A, which is nine-tenths of a nautical mile south of Pecks Ledge in Norwalk to buoy R24, which is nine-tenths of a nautical mile southeast of the southern tip of Cockenoe Reef in Norwalk to buoy BH, which is one and four-tenths nautical miles southeast of Penfield Reef Light in Bridgeport to a point midway between buoy R18 and buoy R20, which point is one and six-tenths nautical miles south of Point No Point in Stratford and thence towards the west end of the
Marine Fisheries Division January 2016
34 Marine Fisheries Information Circular
west breakwater at New Haven Harbor and [b]west of a line drawn from the Stratford Shoal light to the easterly breakwater of the Housatonic River in Milford
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#1696769 - 10/19/16 01:16 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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Wow! That's a lot of "which is". Sounds like the "begats" in the bible.

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#1696773 - 10/19/16 01:42 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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No disrespect but I couldn't make heads or tails of that response whatsoever. Granted I'm not the brightest bulb on this website but whoever was dragging out there whether they should have been or shouldn't have been hard long gone by now.
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#1696775 - 10/19/16 01:51 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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#1696800 - 10/19/16 04:18 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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Apparently our good legislators in Hartford who write these rules have never heard of Lat and Lon. Which is sad.

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#1697334 - 10/24/16 08:42 AM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: EnCon Police]
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Sorry for the confusion, I thought I added the answer along with aforementioned information. Here is what I got from fisheries.

Trawling is permitted west of Stratford Shoal. The restrictions are the vessel must be less than 44 feet  (there are/is  an exemption for people who fished in 1982) and no night time trawling west of Madison.
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#1697490 - 10/25/16 01:31 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: EnCon Police]
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The reason I posted is because I've seen the FV John Dempsey, from Port Jefferson I think, dragging west of middle Grounds light during the day and then head over to the Connecticut side in the evening or late at night. Over the last three years I've seen the vessel trolling at night off bouy 18, and Stratford PT on many nights. I do a lot of night time striper fishing in the spring/ summer/fall and during the month of June when the striper bite is hot they like to come over to the Connecticut side around 2 or 3 am. Then work back to middle Grounds by first light and then back to Port Jeff by mid morning. just last week when I was fishing middle grounds they came out early evening and headed to the Connecticut side around 5pm when I was headed in so they had to be dragging in the dark. They are usually out during the week not on the weekends. I hope someone can look into this because these guys have to be putting a huge dent in the fish population in the western sound.
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#1697492 - 10/25/16 01:40 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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Steve,
You are talking about the DEEP Research Vessel John Dempsey??
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#1697493 - 10/25/16 01:41 PM Re: Dragging west of Middle Grounds [Re: steve/swct]
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Loc: CT. Got a problem with that?
I thought the John Dempsey was a DEP research vessel (RV), it is usually docked in Milford harbor.

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